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andyoakley  
#1 Posted : 17 June 2011 13:49:20(UTC)
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andyoakley

Several of our sub contractors are telling our sites that their dumper is ok to drive on the road between gates because they are only 300 metres apart.
Does any one know if there is a definitive document that details when a licence is required and what can be done without getting licenced i.e. crossing the road?
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 17 June 2011 15:20:32(UTC)
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bob youel

Andy, as supplied by Mick Norton: Thanks Mick
Reference Site Dumpers being used on the public highway.
The main sources of reference are;
• DVLA, (INF 52), 7/10, Information for drivers of large vehicles.
• OPERC Safety Alert (ALT-010) www.operc.com/SafetyAlert/ALT_010_A3.pdf
• HSE Construction Information Sheet No 52 (Revision 1)

Site personnel who hold a full Category B driving licence can drive any of the following, known as "EXEMPTED" GOODS VEHICLES. the list is not exhaustive.

• goods vehicles powered by steam.
• Any road construction vehicles
• Any engineering equipment, (but not cranes).
• Forklift trucks.
• Digging machines.
Other exempted goods vehicles are those that do not use public roads for distances of more than 9.7 kilometres in total during any week.

The mythical example you gave is in fact correct. Exemptions apply to some goods vehicles, which,
• Do not travel more than 1.5 kilometres on roads at one time.

I have been doing battle with a leading card scheme that has claimed eg, that a telescopic handler carrying a load on it's forks for short distances along the public highway becomes an LGV . This is ABSOLUTE NONSENSE. Similarly the leading card scheme stipulates the need for categories G and H in addition to Category B for Rollers and Tracked items of engineering plant, which hold the Dof T exemption.

NB: TO DRIVE THE DUMPER (AS AN EXEMPTED GOODS VEHICLE) ON THE PUBLIC HIGHWAY THE OPERATOR MUST HOLD A FULL CAT B DRIVING LICENCE. THE MINIMUM OPERATOR AGE IS DETERMINED BY THE WEIGHT- AGED 18 FOR MACHINES WITH A MAXIMUM AUTHORISED MASS, (MAM), BETWEEN 3.5 TONNES AND 7.5 TONNES, AND AGED 21 FOR THOSE OVER 7.5 TONNES.
edwardh  
#3 Posted : 20 June 2011 14:48:51(UTC)
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edwardh

If by "licence" you meant driving licence then Bob's response is spot on.

If however your question was intended to cover all aspects of the legal use of the dumper on the road then there is quite a bit more to consider.

The dumper is categorised as a "Works Truck"; because it is only used for a short distance it is not required to comply with the Construction and Use Regs for road vehicles. It is however required to be registered and display Number Plates. It may be subject to Vehicle Excise Duty [Tax Disc] at rate dependent on the vehicle capacity [there are a number of exemptions, not sure if they apply]. It will need to be insured for use on the public road. If it is used after-dark it will need lights.

If you talk to a reputable plant-hirer they should be able to give you full details as they often need to supply vehicles for use around roadworks etc.
johnmurray  
#4 Posted : 20 June 2011 19:52:12(UTC)
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johnmurray

And the drivers will need to use the safety restraint.
And the load will need to be safe.
If you're driving it on the road the forks will either need to be removed or made safe.
JCB's with a 40 gallon diesel barrel in the bucket are not legal !
Just because normal-vehicle C&U regs do not apply does not mean you can drive any old rubbish on a road, and the driver will be liable if he/she does.
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