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We have an extraction unit which is an LEV unit. As part of our COSHH assessment we have to inspect the LEV unit. In line with PAT testing the equipment I reckon that checking for the areas on page 63 and 64 of this pdf guidance document. - http://www.hse.gov.uk/fo...lops/fod/inspect/lev.pdf Would be a reasonable assessment to satisfy the COSHH regs of inspection. This is the LEV: Ebac PF400 (110v) Opinions on the above please as to the suitability of such an arrangement / assessment as it is a very basic LEV unit.
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That looks more like an assessment of whether it's the right equipment for the job than a COSHH thorough examination.
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Have you seen the LEV unit though, its so basic. I was thinking of using an in line anenometer to measure the capture velocity, PAT check it and see it operate to see if it was suitable for the job of extracting.
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I'm not entirely convinced that unit is actually LEV. It doesn't appear to be marketed as such. COSHH requires a statutory test by a competent person against the performance criteria of an initial commissioning report which should also reference the supplier's description of the statutory ‘thorough examination and test’ and exposure targets?
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May I suggest that there are two aspects to testing LEV. One is to test to confirm that the system is working to designed performance levels. The other is to check that the system is actually capturing and removing the contamination for which it was installed in the first place.
The two require different testing techniques.
IMHO the latter is by far the most important. I see many LEV systems that simply cannot be achieving adequate capture, simply because when specified the key factors were not included in the design. Classic is the elephant trunk with hood that is far too far away from the source to ever achieve adequate capture. I always remember my mentor on LEV (a very experienced and highly respected expert in this field) many years ago saying to me: "Chris, as a consultant I rarely make any money designing a new LEV system. Most of my income arises from modifying existing systems that could never work as designed." Years later, having seen more LEV systems than can count I can understand what he was getting at!
Chris
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ron hunter wrote:I'm not entirely convinced that unit is actually LEV. I thought the exact same thing, the manual says it is to be certified by a refrigeration engineer, bit unusual,. Any more opinions on this not being LEV? I actually think its extraction for nuisance dusts more than anything. Thats why I dont wanna go OTT on gettnig this certified when we can spend time and resources on higher hazard stuff.
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Having just looked at a picture of the unit, it's like no other LEV I have ever seen. Perhaps PUWER and the Electricity at Work Regs would be more applicable.
LB
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So what do you use it for? What is the "COSHH" context here?
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If there is need for LEV, then there is need to confirm that it operates effectively.
The face velocity must be tested, with some meaningful assessment of the efficacy in capturing whatever is the substance of concern be it dust or some chemical vapour etc. LEV should reduce the ambient airborne concentration at or close to the worker to a level that is reliably within safe limits.
The fan should be robust, and an alarm fitted to alert the user to fan failure. Ideally, an audible and visible alarm should be supplemented with equipment isolation and shutdown of the process or procedure that requires this LEV, though that automated shutdown is sometimes inappropriate and occasionally unsafe.
If you have a hazardous operation, you will probably need a negative pressure enclosure or room. Low pressure prevents escape through doors and windows (doors should be tight fitting and windows sealed. The fabric of the room may also need to be sealed) but a make-up air supply will be required.
For work with whatever this potentially hazardous substance is, the relative isolation of a work in a closed room will probably require an effective alarm system.
All alarms and other performance indicators must be checked and recorded at regular intervals. Users must be trained in startup and shutdown procedures - a considerable overrun may be required, and possibly an emergency power supply to the fan(s).
The ductwork must be tested for leaks and bypass that can result in inappropriate escape of pollutants or inflow of ambient air that can reduce extract efficacy without alarm activation.
Where is the outflow? If is safe, and legal, to discharge to atmosphere without treatment? Who might be at risk from or otherwise affected by the outflow? If you have traps or filters in the system, these must be checked continuously, usually be manometry. Prefilters may be required, and checked/changed regularly, with periodic KI testing of the filter substrate by a UKAS approved testing service.
To do all this properly is not an easy matter. Best to contact a professional - there are many companies offering this type of service, take your pick
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leadbelly wrote:Having just looked at a picture of the unit, it's like no other LEV I have ever seen. Perhaps PUWER and the Electricity at Work Regs would be more applicable.
LB Exactly, that's the route I'm thinking of heading down. I was even more inclined to recategorize it for nuisance dusts (it's more plausible application I feel) or throw it out as it appears more of a headache than a help but I loathe to throw out a new piece of kit (2months old). Rob.hunter I specifically didn't list it's application as it's the wrong tool for the job (welding would you believe) but that doesn't necessarily mean it won't come in handy else where which is why I wanted to keep it. As for the practicality of the unit for welding, it's the wrong tool. I'm inclined to unify all our sites and hire in the correct kit ad hoc when it's required; we don't do much welding anyway. these are the things you get without purchasing policy compliance and legacy equipment in the stores.
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I've just looked at a picture of the thing, and I'd classify it as a "glorified fan cooler".
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Reads like you're shifting the pretence of what this is, and what it is used for, simply to avoid the need to deal with the problem properly, and possibly to save money.
You were happy to call it LEV until it gets complicated, then it becomes something else. Why did you perceive a need to use, or pretent to use, LEV and what are the hazards that you were expecting to manage? The equipment hasn't changed and neither have those hazards, only your name for a possibly inadequate item of LEV equipment
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Hi - Having looked at the equipment - it says that it is for air moving - it certainly has the appearance of one of the industrial heat or cool air blowers. LEV is used for extraction - what context is this being used in? What substance is it supposed to be removing?
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Sorry, but it doesn't look at all like any LEV I've ever seen!
You need to get back to the root of what it is you're trying to achieve here. Firstly what is the substances that requires exhausted, secondly, do you need to use that substance and thirdly can you replace it with something else.
We had an extract system cobbled together by fitters to take away adhesive fumes from a workshop, and all they were doing was "moving air". In fact, they were moving the air and passing the potential respiratory sensitiser to the street outside, unfiltered for inhalation by unsuspecting passers by!
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