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firestar967  
#1 Posted : 18 June 2011 14:46:11(UTC)
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firestar967

Well I’m still looking for that break into full time health and safety. I’ve signed up to agencies, attend IOSH meetings for networking opportunities (even a member of a local health and safety association), advertised on this site (thank you to all who have sent me contacts in the past – just didn’t get lucky), and signed up for LinkedIn.

I passed the NEBOSH Diploma last year and I am doing my IPD for CMIOSH. I have had a couple of helpful IOSH members review my CV (Many thanks for that) and alter it to suit any application. I work for a charity as a volunteer health and safety advisor as my current role is airfield fire and rescue so not industry specific, as ex-military but still working within it (for how much longer I and my colleagues don’t know).

So any other suggestions would be welcome.
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 21 June 2011 08:05:34(UTC)
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bob youel

door knock and more door knock and more door knock

Get out and knock doors on the small industrial [if we have any industry left!] estates in your areas

best of luck
firestar967  
#3 Posted : 21 June 2011 17:27:35(UTC)
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firestar967

Thanks Bob

I think also I should widen my options as I do have other skills (it’s also very depressing reading some of the other posts). Still the charity work will keep me involved and I’m not unemployed yet. Just have to wait and see and knock on a few doors, network, etc.
chris42  
#4 Posted : 23 June 2011 11:15:47(UTC)
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chris42

I'm in a similar position to you and can only add, keep trying. If you don't mind me asking how exactly did you manage to find the volunteer role? Every time I try on the Internet etc, I seem to only be able to find the foot soldier role, collecting money. Also do they insure you or have you bought your own ? As I’m unemployed at the moment, I feel I want to help others and possibly gain new H&S related experience while I’m at it. Technically I can work any hours as I not claiming any form of benefit, just living off savings. Any pointers would be appreciated.
firestar967  
#5 Posted : 24 June 2011 14:07:18(UTC)
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firestar967

Chris you have a PM
chris42  
#6 Posted : 24 June 2011 19:42:05(UTC)
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chris42

Firestar967

Thanks for the info and I have sent a reply. Via PM

Also, I may help you to mention which industry sector you would like to work in. It may prompt someone to give some specific advice for that area.

Chris
gahan  
#7 Posted : 30 June 2011 12:02:37(UTC)
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gahan

Firestar967

I saw your badge on the forum, I take it your are ex-RAF Crash Rescue, me too. Have you considered looking abroad, working in Afghanistan, maybe at Kandahar airbase, I know they are looking for experienced fire safety persons, not necessarily operational on the crash combine. It is a Canadian based operation inside the wire, paying decent tax free wedge and home every 12 weeks for a month.

May get you on the career path you never know

best of luck
martin1  
#8 Posted : 30 June 2011 16:11:57(UTC)
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martin1

From my experience...

Agents will need to be chased up on a regular basis. They will give it the big sell but unless you make the effort to chase them you might not hear much back.

Don't just register with the agencies in IOSH. I have had a number of leads from local agents in my area who are not safety specialists.

I've also had a few calls out of the blue from agents who have found my CV on sites such as Monster.
firestar967  
#9 Posted : 30 June 2011 20:52:25(UTC)
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firestar967

Hi Gahan

Well aware of Kandahar and have contacts there, even wrote a bit of training software for their fire crews as a favour to a colleague. I am ‘operational’ and it is a consideration if things do not work out here.

Problem is I worked hard for my health and safety diploma but have other skills and experience in other areas.

Should I stay or should I go now...?
BJC  
#10 Posted : 01 July 2011 09:32:57(UTC)
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Guest

It is a very difficult time for Safety practitioners keep an eye on SHP online and here hsejobs.proboards.com

Dont give up !
John M  
#11 Posted : 01 July 2011 10:32:53(UTC)
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John M

It is my view that the health and safety "industry" has now almost ceased. The reasons for this are many fold including over-subscription, a monstrous reduction of our manufacturing industry, a serious decline in construction and heavy engineering and an almost insatiable impulse to get on the H&S ladder.

The present government thinking is to hammer home the de-regulation mantry, cut burdens (their words - not mine) on business, curb the powers of the remaining Inspectors and cull HSE Advisors and Consultants.

Employers want more than just another H&S body on the payroll. The smart practitioner has to offer, and be able to produce more - such as HR, QA and Environmental input. Simple NEBOSH and IOSH courses are no longer sufficient for the bigger employers. The smaller ones are cash conscious.

This is not the time to consider H&S as a career or as an income stream. My advice would be to abandon H&S aspirations and consider other work activities and enrol on an MBA degree from a good University.

Jon

Thats the way it is my friend. Good luck!
Joebaxil  
#12 Posted : 01 July 2011 20:59:47(UTC)
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Joebaxil

and "will someone not forget to turn the light out on the way out"

firestar967  
#13 Posted : 02 July 2011 10:23:39(UTC)
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firestar967

It’s also doesn’t help that you used to have H&S manager 1 looking after site A,B & C and H&S manager 2 looking after D,E,F & G to lose manager 1 and let manager 2 become area manager for A to G. Just paste some policy in to cover the gaps!
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