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NeilBoorman  
#1 Posted : 01 July 2011 18:09:51(UTC)
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NeilBoorman

Could anyone tell me the required noise level of battery operated fire alarms for use on construction sites. The answer eludes me; BS 5839 makes reference to noise levels but doesn't give the definitive. Manufacturers of certain types quote 110db - 120db but my guess is this is what their products will achieve rather than what is required from a legal/BS EN point-of-view. A housepoint goes to the person who could also tell me what the test entails & under what conditions. If anyone knows & could point me to chapter & verse I'd be very grateful. Many thanks N
firesafety101  
#2 Posted : 01 July 2011 22:11:54(UTC)
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firesafety101

This won't answer your question but does it really matter as long as the alarm can be heard by all in attendance? How about 5 decibel more than any sound level present, if more than that is required then consider a system of lights etc. (visual).
boblewis  
#3 Posted : 02 July 2011 11:00:53(UTC)
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boblewis

Neil Have to say it as an old pedant - Fire Alarms emit sound not noise. Noise is unwanted sound and and one imagines the sound of the alarm is in a sense desirable and needed. :-) Bob
Phil Roche  
#4 Posted : 02 July 2011 11:16:24(UTC)
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Phil Roche

From a legal / Code of practice point of view the guidance would be along the lines of the RRFSO act , HSG 168 and the joint code of practice for prevention of fires on construction sites . To the best of my knowledge there is not a level or number given in any only a requirement to provide suitable and suffficient means of raising the alarm. This is where the good old chestnut of risk assessment comes into play and would be asked for in the event of a fire . Id look at the requirements when undertaking the fire risk assessment as in the worst case (loudest ) scenario and base the requirements on that . From experience using the battery powered alarms they are adequate 9 times out of 10 but also as the site develops so quikcly , partitions etc it needs constant monitoring . hope this helps , Phil Roche
Judex  
#5 Posted : 02 July 2011 17:08:54(UTC)
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Judex

The 5 decibel mentioned by chris seems ok and if there is sleeping accomodation it must be of sufficient level to alert everyone and need also to check the Environmental requirements for night.
boblewis  
#6 Posted : 02 July 2011 19:17:02(UTC)
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boblewis

The art is to put sufficient numbers in to ensure that they can be heard throughout the structure, just like a fixed system the number varies according to the building layout and size. If somebody claims it cannot be heard then more are needed.
Betta Spenden  
#7 Posted : 02 July 2011 20:09:07(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

65 decibel or 5 decibel above ambient if 65 is too quiet. Sleeping accomodation needs 75 decibel at the pillow. All well and good but that figure does not account for the inverse square law.
paul reynolds  
#8 Posted : 03 July 2011 12:51:39(UTC)
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paul reynolds

After many dsicussion with the HSE on this matter (timber frame construction) they stated that it has to be suitable and sufficient so that when the alarm is raised it can be heard by thoses who are located within the building and the surrounding area to allow evacuation, note that these alarms may need to be linked so that they provide sufficient coverage. We ended up using the howler system as it can be linked and easily installed/moved nad adapted as required.
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