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Buffy2010  
#1 Posted : 07 July 2011 10:24:08(UTC)
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Buffy2010

Good day, please can someone advise if there are any standards out there to test flagpoles to, and also if you have any suggestions of companies who do this. I have spoken to a few, but no one can really give me any definitive answers.
Thanks
B
jay  
#2 Posted : 07 July 2011 10:42:53(UTC)
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jay

Fletcher  
#3 Posted : 07 July 2011 10:45:24(UTC)
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Fletcher

If you know the manufacturer or installer they should be able to help you.
Buffy2010  
#4 Posted : 07 July 2011 11:57:40(UTC)
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Buffy2010

Hi thanks for the replies. Do you have any information for the UK though, that's US info.
Also, we have no idea of who installed, the flagpoles have been in place before we took on the property and that documentation is unfortunately no where to be found.
many thanks,
B
tabs  
#5 Posted : 07 July 2011 12:05:50(UTC)
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tabs

I would suggest that you contact one of the larger insurance companies - their inspectors probably can advise. Just Google "UK statutory inspections" and you should find one.

I am unaware of any specific statutory period, so it will come down to a schedule I guess.
ExDeeps  
#6 Posted : 07 July 2011 12:59:56(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Hi,
If I may briefly hijack this, many years ago, when I was a very young "Deeps" I found myself spending some time at a loose end in one of Her Majesties stone frigates down Pompey way and was volunteered to escort an inspector who was looking at various bits and bobs round the site. Anyway, I wasn't quick enough to stop him pulling a large 10" screwdriver out of his tool box, driving it into the flag pole to its handle and then levering out a large section of very damp, spongelike timber. Anyway, he looked at me, said, "That'll be condemned then" and with that we rapidly left the area. The flag pole in this case was a very tall mast with yard arms etc and was used frequently to salute ships entering the aformentioned Pompey. Young deeps was not popular when all that had to stop untill a new mast was stepped...!
Any way, back to the question - perhaps you might contact the MOD or better the RN or a friendly Stone frigate and ask who they use?
Jim
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 07 July 2011 13:24:02(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

So I guess key issues here are the material the pole is made from and what and how it is anchored.
Insurance Engineer would no doubt give you an opinion. So would a structural engineer.
ODonnell19538  
#8 Posted : 07 July 2011 14:14:49(UTC)
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ODonnell19538

At our site we have a regime in place for the inspection of masts and towers. Flagpoles are part of this and are subject to inspection every two years. Generally we use the services of a firm of consulting engineers who are competent to carry out the assessment. A Google search under 'masts and towers maintenance / inspections' will probably come up with the company we use and a few others who can undertake the work for you. The following link is to an MoD guide on the same subject which you may find useful:
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdo...F8D6A9E4FCF/0/pg1008.pdf

Danny
Buffy2010  
#9 Posted : 07 July 2011 17:11:48(UTC)
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Buffy2010

Thanks for all your replies, it has been really useful. Have a great evening. B.
Graham Bullough  
#10 Posted : 07 July 2011 18:06:27(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Perhaps forum users from companies responsible for wooden telephone poles or wooden poles for overhead power lines in rural areas might be able to help. This suggestion is prompted by one of my late Mum's reminiscences of when she studied for City & Guild technical subjects during WW2 in order to become a traffic superintendent with the GPO Telephones. One of the questions in a "Transmissions & Lines" exam asked how a telephone pole should be checked to see if it was still in good condition. My Mum wasn't sure of the correct answer so she guessed and wrote something like 'kick it and listen for what sort of sound it makes'. Afterwards she looked up the relevant maintenance manual and found that the GPO issued a special type of hammer for testing the integrity of poles. However, when she later asked a maintenance engineer about such hammers, he said that he and other engineers didn't bother using them - a good kick was easier and equally effective!

As an aside I deduce from this tale that safety boots with steel-reinforced toecaps were probably available to the GPO engineers involved. However, does anyone happen to know when safety boots of this type generally became available in the UK?

Back to the main topic: ExDeeps describes how the inspector he was "volunteered" to assist used a large screwdriver as an implement to test the integrity of a flagpole. Presumably any implement such as a knife or old screwdriver is suitable for such a purpose provided that it is thin and has a reasonable handle. If a flagpole resists penetration at various points by a test implement, its wood is probably reasonably sound, especially if its surfaces do not contain cracks likely to admit moisture.

I'm no expert, but guess the same method probably applies to various other outdoor wooden entities, including wooden window frames and especially sills. Trying to keep such frames and sills sound with regular applications of paint is futile because the paint cannot withstand the UK climate with its greatly fluctuating conditions of temperature and humidity, etc. Changing to uPVC windows at home was great in my opinion because it eliminated the need for regular painting and also work at height from ladders when doing the upstairs windows!
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