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Minimum height of balcony rail on a cricket pavilion?
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mootoppers  
#1 Posted : 03 August 2011 13:59:04(UTC)
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mootoppers
Hi Can anyone tell me what the minimum height of a balcony rail (1st floor equivalent) in a cricket pavilion should be - it is a school premise and is of mature age! I'm going round in circles between building regs, scaffolding rail heights etc and need the minimum height required in order to make my recommendations. Many thanks in advance.
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bob youel  
#2 Posted : 03 August 2011 15:20:16(UTC)
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bob youel
In my view risk assess and go from there; as if its only young children present then a different parameter will be needed and use the building regs as your guide because this is a permemant place
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mootoppers  
#3 Posted : 03 August 2011 15:50:15(UTC)
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Bob - many thanks for the answer. Young children will not be there very often (and always supervised) To be honest, it's the adults who are the issue, especially after a couple of pints after a match....we have all sorts of events in it and hence it is very much multi-use. My thought is that if possible, a perspex/safety glass strip fixed above the current rail top would be the best idea - there is low seating which would have views obscured by an increased height wooden rail. My risk assessment calls for a significant increase in height (currently only 720mm!) but I know that I'll be asked for the min height. As adults (and quite possibly tall, sporty beer drinking adults at that) will be attending the area I want to err on the side of caution.
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HSSnail  
#4 Posted : 03 August 2011 15:50:30(UTC)
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I would use the building regulations as reference - don't have them to had but they do cover areas where "children" are likely to be present. From memory it requires an additional mid rail if not enclosed. Go for the risk assessment. You will not need to change under building regs as I don't believe they apply retrospectively. You say these are premises of "mature" age so what history of accidents do you have, is there some other need to replace eg they have rotted, and if you are going to replace have you got any issues with listed building status or conservation orders? As for the scaffolding rail heights you will not be designing scaffolding with children in mind - generally try to keep them off so I think those standards could be a bit of a red herring in this case. Brian
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Mr.Flibble  
#5 Posted : 03 August 2011 16:29:18(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble
S ee if you can get a copy of BS 6180:1999. I cant find my copy but im sure its 1.1m to top of handrail.
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Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 03 August 2011 16:29:48(UTC)
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Yossarian  
#7 Posted : 03 August 2011 16:32:41(UTC)
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Yossarian
Mr Flibble, the standard has now been superceded, but the figure remains the same. BS 6180:2011 "Barriers in and Around Buildings" suggests a height of 1100mm, but you really need to get a copy yourself to check the criteria fit with what you are describing. Then apply this knowledge to your Risk Assessment. ...I'll not comment on the legal status of this Standard - that's a whole other topic! ;-)
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frankc  
#8 Posted : 03 August 2011 16:48:50(UTC)
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mootoppers wrote:
Hi Can anyone tell me what the minimum height of a balcony rail (1st floor equivalent) in a cricket pavilion should be - it is a school premise and is of mature age! I'm going round in circles between building regs, scaffolding rail heights etc and need the minimum height required in order to make my recommendations. Many thanks in advance.
I've got no legal documentation to prove this (so please be gentle with me) but i wouldn't have thought the normal 'safe heights' are cast in stone for the purpose of watching sport as i'm sure the walls are no higher than 900mm at The Etihad Stadium at the front of the family stand. Maybe it's due to the sitting/viewing problem.
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David Bannister  
#9 Posted : 03 August 2011 16:51:18(UTC)
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David Bannister
I may be hallucinating but I think that a similar topic was posted some time ago. Moo, a search may well bring up previous views.
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Yossarian  
#10 Posted : 03 August 2011 22:07:52(UTC)
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Yossarian
frankc wrote:
...I've got no legal documentation to prove this (so please be gentle with me) but i wouldn't have thought the normal 'safe heights' are cast in stone for the purpose of watching sport as i'm sure the walls are no higher than 900mm at The Etihad Stadium at the front of the family stand. Maybe it's due to the sitting/viewing problem.
Come on Frank, fess up - you measured! ;-) Seriously, it's also covered in the Standard as I recently had to check for railings round seated versus standing areas. Mootoppers, you know the premises layout best - but I think the BS is the guidance you need to follow.
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mootoppers  
#11 Posted : 04 August 2011 13:32:26(UTC)
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mootoppers
Everyone - as ever - informative, adaptive and with a touch of humour! Many thanks to you.
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