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brianw88  
#1 Posted : 24 August 2011 23:11:13(UTC)
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brianw88

I write Method Statements for my company, but when i issue a MS for one of the major companies ie; Balfour Beatty Galliford etc. they seem to want alot more than i think they are entitled too! Can any one tell me what a good MS should actually contain. Surely they are nothing to do with risks as they come in the risk assessment, BB are trying to tell me i should put the local hospital location in a MS help please!
AllanFS  
#2 Posted : 25 August 2011 07:37:56(UTC)
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AllanFS

Brian Just completed a MS a few days ago. On the last page theres a list of emergency contact numbers ,were I always put the name of the nearest hospital and contact number. Allan
MaxPayne  
#3 Posted : 25 August 2011 08:24:00(UTC)
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MaxPayne

We put in emergency procedures, neraest A&E etc. It might seem obvious if you're working in the same area constantly, but remember that not everyone is or does. In my mind the hazarads and controls associated with the task are contained in the risk assessment; the method statement should be a "plain English" document that clearly explains to the end user how to carry out the task safely. Sorry, obviously if you have non-English speaking worksers you'll need to work around that to achieve the same goal.
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 25 August 2011 08:45:37(UTC)
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RayRapp

Brian It is not unusual to put in emergency contact numbers and details of first aiders, nearest hospital and so on, in method statements. If that is the type of information the PC requires then you are obliged to comply with their wishes. Unfortunately some organisations (clients or PCs) want all and sundry included in their MS which ends up an unwieldy document which no one wants to read. The fact that most method statements are not followed prescriptively appears to escape the notice of the powers that be. I believe for most activities a MS should be succinct and should contain, but not limited to, the following topics: Location, start/end date Brief scope of works Personnel involved (qualifcations required) Plant and equipment Materials Hazards Emergency arrangements and contact details Risk assessment
Birchall31628  
#5 Posted : 25 August 2011 08:52:18(UTC)
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Birchall31628

My method statements are specific to asbestos removal procedures but the spirit of it's the same. They include: Details of Contract CDM (if applicable) Enforcing Authority Asbestos Information Scope of work and method Control measures RPE and PPE Emergency provisions Enclosure management Enclosure procedures Welfare Isolation Equipment schedule Waste disposal Access Variations to procedure Confirmation record
gramsay  
#6 Posted : 26 August 2011 15:07:37(UTC)
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gramsay

I like Max Payne's answer. A site / job specific document which simply explains how the work will be carried out safely. Isn't the clue in the title: "statement"? (which to me indicates that it's not an encyclopaedia!) All the other info mentioned is relevant to hold on site, but should it be part of a method statement, or additional (and important) parts of a safety file? Just a thought, and a wish for smaller, but more relevant, documents!
Clive765  
#7 Posted : 26 August 2011 15:22:34(UTC)
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Clive765

Hi. Are you writing Method Statements for Balfour Beatty Rail? if so, then you should include the location of the nearest hospital incase of accident or emergency. Regards
bob youel  
#8 Posted : 26 August 2011 15:42:17(UTC)
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bob youel

Adding the address of the local A&E dept into MS's his has become a fad situation as after undertaking research with paramedics and ambulance crews I have found that it is usually easier and much much quicker for them to get to U than it is for U to get to the local A&E dept in the majority of work situations so putting in the address of the nearest A&E is academic in most situations as it usually takes to long to get to that location in the case of an accident especially so as U have no defence if you are speeding etc! NB: The local hospital may not have an A&E dept so watch out for this point as there have been occasions where people have got to the local hospital only to be turned away! This is an area to think about in your F-Aid & emergency situations risk assessments Personally I do not advise adding in that address unless its 'proper' to do so
martin1  
#9 Posted : 26 August 2011 15:45:23(UTC)
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martin1

I was educated in an American company that often used the term JSA rather than risk assessment or method statement. The JSA for them was basically a detailed step by step run through of the job with hazards / risks identified against each step. You end up with a combined risk assessment and method statement - one document. I have never seen the need for two documents when one will do. I also find it odd when I read method statements ( procedures, safe systems of work - call them what you like ) that happily mention a job step without once mentioning the harm that might befall you - seems slightly illogical. Balfour are running a scheme I think they call Zero Harm. If they are asking for more detail then I'd give it to them - from what I have seen they are really trying to improve their site safety ( and yours ).
Tigers  
#10 Posted : 26 August 2011 15:52:09(UTC)
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Tigers

I usually get a laminate of any Coshh data sheets of any chemicals the crews may be using- and add this to the statement, hopefully this way A&E will get the right information and be able to treat the patient quicker.
MB1  
#11 Posted : 26 August 2011 16:05:44(UTC)
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MB1

Brian, re: hospital address details..... carn't you refer BB to the health & safety plan?? I always used to put such info into this not on every MS
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