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Jackson900572  
#1 Posted : 24 August 2011 16:49:58(UTC)
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Jackson900572

Good afternoon

I'm putting a presentation together shortly on how I aim to achieve H&S compliance over a number of sites (which I'm currently not in control of), however I believe that in some cases compliance isn't enough.

Can someone give me one phrase/sentence that would sum this up, but at the same time maintaining and achieving compliance and going the extra mile.
As I believe that this would be a powerful opener, direct and meaningful.

Many thanks in advance
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 25 August 2011 09:00:44(UTC)
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RayRapp

Judging from the lack of responses it appears it is a difficult question. There are many inputs in maintaining good health and safety practices, however the driver is compliance and to a lesser degree industry best practice. Looking for phrase or even a sentence to describe these processes is like trying to nail jelly to a wall. Some prefer to focus on the safety culture, as opposed to just compliance, but even this is a nebulous and transient concept which is inextricably associated with compliance. Notwithstanding the latter, a phrase plagiarised from your own pen below.

'...compliance isn't enough.'
Jackson900572  
#3 Posted : 25 August 2011 09:27:49(UTC)
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Jackson900572

Totally agree with your comments, also the reason I placed the question.
My collegues are split with what they want, some look at compliance, and others on certifictation, but I want to maintain my focus on compliance, hands on assistance and developing the safety culture along with maintaining our certification at some locations.

Many thanks
A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 25 August 2011 10:03:52(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I agree simple: compliance is not enough you must move onto a proactive H&S culture.
I can attach send a slide I did for our directors a few years ago.
Canopener  
#5 Posted : 25 August 2011 10:14:57(UTC)
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Canopener

Does this 4 C's thing help at all? I can't take credit for it as it cam,e from a colleague at Barnsley

Criminal, do nothing, know exactly what they are doing and are quite aware of the fact they are in breach of the statutory duties,

Careless, not deliberately breaching their statutory duties, but not really doing anything to actively manage health and safety in the organization,

Compliant, comply with their statutory duties and no more, do the legal minimum (CATNAP – Cheapest Available Technique Not Attracting Prosecution),

Committed, comply with their statutory duties and much more, believe and understand in the business benefits of investing in health and safety and it is embedded into their organisational culture.
Jackson900572  
#6 Posted : 25 August 2011 10:38:28(UTC)
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Jackson900572

I think the 4 c's would be slide 2, quite a simple approach which is direct message, also something that can be consistantly refered to down the process of developing the safety culture
martin1  
#7 Posted : 25 August 2011 11:00:04(UTC)
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martin1

I always come at this from the angle Phil Rose touched on.

Remind people that the law is actually " a minimum standard ". When has doing the minimum ever allowed a business to thrive?

Of course your culture might not think much of this - I am working myself in a culture that struggles to see beyond simple legal compliance.

An example that comes to mind is the investigation of injuries. This is not required by law but it is good for business to investigate all injuries ( and near misses ) because it might just: help you prevent future injuries and help you reduce your claims exposure.

The road outside my office is set at 30mph. This is a minimum standard. Driving at 30mph does not guarantee my safety.
David Bannister  
#8 Posted : 25 August 2011 12:02:01(UTC)
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David Bannister

First stage must be to be aware of your audience: what "pushes their buttons"

A presentation to the PLC Board is very different to the owner/manager of a company, to a H&S team, to safety reps, to middle managers, to shop floor employees, to contractors etc.

Your message must be tailored to the specific audience or else will be scorned, challenged or simply ignored, drowned out by snores from the audience.
tomorton  
#9 Posted : 25 August 2011 16:42:43(UTC)
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tomorton

Adjusting attitudes to obtain more than bare compliance is laudable so I hope you succeed.

I have found that managers / directors etc. always want to see some measurable progress on any issue that comes to them on a regular basis. Of course, this can be a slightly spurious focus on reducing things like accident numbers, lost days etc. but nevertheless, you can guarantee to a manager that simple compliance will establish a level of H&S performance that will never improve.
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