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Not really H&S but as we do ‘legal stuff’ it has fallen to us to find out about it. Anybody been contacted by Phonographic Performance Limited about needing a licence to play radios at work. It seems that we do. Anybody else come across this?
As a colleague says, this makes ‘elf and safety’ seem really quite sensible!
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I have just seen the replies on the Borat tribunal- perhaps I should have kept my mouth shut!!
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Hi-Borat Tribunal monster here. Yes you do need a license-the cost is based on the number of people employed and the hours worked. It can be exceptionally expensive and seemingly out of all proportion. I've been involved in obtaining such a license-the situation is that once you contact the PPI they will check up to see whether you are operating legally. I believe that this is also applicable to radios brought in by employees.
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I seem to recall there being some exceptions for small portable radios, when we looked into this many moons ago after a cold call by said organisation. We decided on a blanket ban across all 30+ sites :-( which may not be good for morale etc but it did help with compliance. I seem to recall finding some good advice - however as becomes my age I am sorry cannot remember from where:-(
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A friend on mine who runs a fair sized company was only telling me acouple of weeks ago that one of his female staff received a phone call and during the conversation the person asked if that was a radio playing in the background. She unwittingly said "yes, it was her radio". Next a bill came in for a substantial amount of money which my friend has refused to pay, stating that it was against company policy and the worker has been reprimanded. However, this may not be the end of the story.
Parasitical springs to mind.
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They are very, very persistent believe. Someone I know said that their barber was prosecuted for playing music without a license, so they do follow it through.
MG
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This is a very real issue so take note and the organisation does not back off!
Another area to manage is copyright as that is now being enforced more and more; as an example a private company has now obtained the rights to many HSE documents including the law poster
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Example of license costs for company employing 50 people working 8 hours a shift:
PPL Approx £400
PRS Approx £800
Phil
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Copyright and playing music at work are closely tied together.
In both the people who "make" the product are entitled to profit from it.
If you think you are hard-done-by, consider the individual local radio, or disco-DJ, both of which have to keep lists of music played and then pay for it.
The work-related problem is solved by banning the playing of music at work when it can be heard by people other than the person playing it.
If the music travels from one premise to the other then that is no problem, unless deliberately played so.....
Copyright on computer software is another thing, deliberate use of software on multiple systems when purchased for a one-off system is a criminal offence, and costs the software industry many billions in the EU alone.
It is worth pointing out that when you purchase software you are not buying the product, you are buying a licence to use the product. The way you are able to use it will be available to read in/on the product.
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I am just drafting an organisation wide ban on radios at work. I will get it in the neck but what’s new. What annoys me is that if you look at the websites for PRS and PPL they emphasise how having music in the background “adds value to the business” and encourage you to take out a licence. Well not this business. According to the PRS website we will be paying about £6000 per annum for our agency. Well we are not going waste that much taxpayer’s money to support a bunch of drug addled talentless non-celebrities (the British music Industry). This organisations do not add any value to the business: we deal with HSE and the EA, auditors and even the police. All of these bodies do add some value to the business; make it better in some, maybe small way. This stuff from PPL and PRS is just pure legalised parasitism.
This is something for the red tape challenge perhaps.
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'This is something for the red tape challenge perhaps.'
Ahh, but it is not 'elf and safety...
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You work your 4 weeks and expect to get paid at the end of it, why is a musician any different. £1.09 a day is hardly going to break the bank anyway.
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Folks,
The topic has been locked as FR 1 applies and it does not appear to be related to "workplace health and safety and environmental issues".
It will however remain on view.
Regards Moderator 3
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