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Tim Harnett  
#1 Posted : 14 September 2011 15:35:41(UTC)
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Tim Harnett

Has anyone come across a similar problems with Cat Ladders?

One of the buildings I cover is a leisure centre. A glass dome over the reception was recently vandalized by oiks who got on to roof (during the school holidays) armed with a can of spray paint. The building has two external cat ladders which have been locked off with a metal plate and a padlock. The athletic vandals were able to get around this and on to the roof. As the roof can be accessed from a ceiling hatch inside the building, I cannot see what purpose they serve and would like to remove them completely. I cannot see how they form any part of the fire exit system unless they are there to allow a maintenance worker on the roof to come down without re-entering the building (which he would find difficult if had gone up the through the ceiling hatch without removing the locking plate first). I am now going to go through the building plans and may need to contact the fire service, just wondered if it had come up before?

regards,

Tim
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 15 September 2011 13:12:41(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The old dichotomy of safe access and egress v occupier liability and attractive nuisance.
The leisure centre has had a significant narrow escape and needs to consider remedial action on the basis of a worst case - what if one of those miscreants had fallen through the glazing or off the roof.

Current security has been readily defeated and more robust secuirty measures are required. The ladders constitute an "attractive nuisance". A permit to work system for (authorised) roof access could cater for a need to make temporary access available to emergency ladders, and could also ensure the security measures are put back at the end of the roof work.

I take it the ladders are WAH compliant, with continuous up-and-over hand-holds all the way onto the roof (some older ladders stop short at the parapet.

Your everyday roof access procedures also need to consider the same risks to maintenance workers posed by roof edges and fragile surfaces.
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