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sean  
#1 Posted : 23 September 2011 09:26:04(UTC)
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Apparently there is a 1 in 3000 chance of getting hit by a piece of an American Satellite that is falling back to earth today, so there's more chance of getting hit by a satellite then there is of winning the Lottery!

Watch out, it could be you!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15023115
Safety Smurf  
#2 Posted : 23 September 2011 09:33:20(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Hmmmmm!

I think those odds have been made up and true odds are several orders of magnitude greater.

Think about it, 1 tiny satalite (most of which will get fried on re-entry) and 1 big planet (most of which is uninhabited)

rosstoward  
#3 Posted : 23 September 2011 09:37:32(UTC)
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rosstoward

one in 3200 of it hitting someone in the world - worth a tenner of anyones money. not that i would bet on someone snuffing it, bad taste n all ;)
ExDeeps  
#4 Posted : 23 September 2011 09:38:35(UTC)
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ExDeeps

OK I'll bite - so you're saying that 20000 people in the UK alone (assuming 60 million population) will be hit by this satellite.

Actually the linked article says " there's a one in 3,200 chance that a piece will hit a person somewhere on the planet but for one person specifically the risk is one in 21 trillion "

It's "statistics and probability gone mad" I tells ya - see what I did there?

Jim ;-)
kdrum  
#5 Posted : 23 September 2011 09:38:58(UTC)
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kdrum

1 in 3.200 of it hitting a person and 1 in 21 trillion of it being you but the good news is 2 of places it is least likely to fall are Scotland and Quebec.

Everyday there is another reason why I am so glad to live in Scotland well apart from our superior football - hey it is Friday I can dream!!
NickH  
#6 Posted : 23 September 2011 09:42:23(UTC)
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NickH

Some of the quotes in that article are priceless!

"Nasa, which owns the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (UARS), estimates it will break into about 26 parts, the heaviest weighing about 158kg, which is equivalent to a very large person."

"It could do some damage to a car or house. Anything that's the size of a moped travelling at 35mph would leave a dent."

Finally....

It seems likely that UARS will avoid areas inhabited by humans, but the experience will be something of a dress rehearsal for a greater danger coming in November.

A German satellite telescope called Rosat is expected to re-enter with much bigger pieces, including a very large lens, still intact.


I can't help sniggering at that acronym!



firesafety101  
#7 Posted : 23 September 2011 09:50:55(UTC)
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firesafety101

I thought it was the size of a double decker bus?

Now that would hurt!

I have my Hat, boots, high viz and safety eyewear on and will not take it off until I know the thing has landed.

Happy Friday everyone.
HSSnail  
#8 Posted : 23 September 2011 10:00:08(UTC)
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HSSnail

So what are the odds that the lottery winner will be hit by this satellite?

Well it is Friday
Paul Duell  
#9 Posted : 23 September 2011 10:04:00(UTC)
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Paul Duell

We were discussing this this morning.

We decided that a certain well-known parcel delivery service should be put in charge of getting the satellite down. The whole thing would disappear into thin air and never be seen again.

Alternatively, just get a politician to promise that the satellite definitely WILL hit someone...then we're all safe.
Safety Smurf  
#10 Posted : 23 September 2011 10:30:44(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

What are the odds that random bits of washing machine will end up on flea-bay being flogged as bits of satalite. ;-)
martin1  
#11 Posted : 23 September 2011 10:38:42(UTC)
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martin1

I still have a rather large chunk of Sputnik embedded in my patio that the Russians have been promising to remove for some years.
ivorheadache  
#12 Posted : 23 September 2011 10:40:30(UTC)
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ivorheadache

Do we need to add this into our risk assessments :o(
smitch  
#13 Posted : 23 September 2011 11:06:13(UTC)
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smitch

ivorheadache wrote:
Do we need to add this into our risk assessments :o(

Depends of whether being hit by a lump of space junk is reasonably foreseeable:

For further clarification see the following examples of case law:

Yes in the case of Kent v Griffiths (2000); and Jolley v Sutton LBC (2000), but not in the case of Bourhill v Young (1943); or Topp v London Country Bus Ltd (1993).

We will be asking all employees to remain extra vigilant, but not to keep looking up so much as to increase the risk of falling over (got to keep a sense of balance/proportionality on these things.

Now where did I put my special satellite proof hard had????????????????
smitch  
#14 Posted : 23 September 2011 11:07:31(UTC)
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smitch

Sorry last line should have read

Now where did I put my special satellite proof hard hat????????????????
RayRapp  
#15 Posted : 23 September 2011 11:12:03(UTC)
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RayRapp

Ahh the Friday thread...courtesy of NASA and the BBC. Playing golf today so I assume that will increase my chances of being hit, I'll take my hard hat just in case - lol.
ExDeeps  
#16 Posted : 23 September 2011 11:25:02(UTC)
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ExDeeps

If you're going to add falling space debris to your RA then you might want to add this too;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15032614 what are the odds?

Jim
Safety Smurf  
#17 Posted : 23 September 2011 11:44:01(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

HECK!

Just realised I've left my satellite reciever on at home!
David Bannister  
#18 Posted : 23 September 2011 11:44:32(UTC)
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David Bannister

Where's Bruce Willis when we need him?

I think that I'll run around a lot, thereby decreasing my chance of being hit.

If it lands in a car scrapyard, how will anyone know?
Ken Slack  
#19 Posted : 23 September 2011 12:05:26(UTC)
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Ken Slack

I'm not so sure of these statistics, as EVERYONE knows that 99.9% of statistics are made up on the spot......
ahoskins  
#20 Posted : 23 September 2011 12:06:44(UTC)
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ahoskins

Exdeeps,

I thought the Irish were too green to spontaneously combust... :-)

(joke - honest!)

A
stuie  
#21 Posted : 23 September 2011 13:00:39(UTC)
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stuie

AHHH welcome back - the friday thread I mean not the soon to be not orbiting satellite. What with the price of scrap metal these days you would think NASA would have a better idea where it is going to land.
stuie  
#22 Posted : 23 September 2011 13:25:18(UTC)
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stuie

I said cut the blue one not the red one!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/new...land-merseyside-15032648
Zyggy  
#23 Posted : 23 September 2011 13:50:18(UTC)
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Zyggy

Sean,

You may remember that we contributed to a very important thread at the beginning of April where I offered to supply you with the latest "Lirpa Loof" protection that your money could buy - if you remember,you opted for the "neeb dah" model?

Unfortunately, the credit card details are no longer valid as I emptied your account, but spent it wisely on a retirement home for past Discussion Forum posters - not going too well as nobody can agree on which brand of bran flakes we stock & if they need to be COSHH assessed or not.

However, I am going off the thread! I have, would you believe, a small quantity of "orbital repellent cream" which guarantees (apart from the very small print) to deflect any satellite bits from striking you.

If you could be so good as to give me your new credit card details I will aim to get the cream to you within the turn of the century.

sean  
#24 Posted : 23 September 2011 13:52:58(UTC)
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At least the passengers stuck on the trains in the tunnels had the odds of a satellite hitting them increased, lucky people!

Anyone been hit yet?

And if 26 components can make it back to earth in one piece why didn't they build the shuttle out of them?
sean  
#25 Posted : 23 September 2011 13:56:45(UTC)
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Zyggy your the man!! I will send my new card details to your inbox, "orbital repellent cream" wow.

Together we could save man kind, your talent and my money!
Zyggy  
#26 Posted : 23 September 2011 15:25:43(UTC)
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Zyggy

Sean,

As a show of good faith I will also need the deeds to your luxury abode, therefore I have instructed my solicitors, "Sue, Grabbit & Run" to contact you & ask you to sign the necessary details.

They do however work odd hours & may pay a call in the middle of the night, but please ignore the violin cases.

I am also working hard on the patented invisible safety glasses which might be of use to colleagues from another thread.

sean  
#27 Posted : 23 September 2011 15:39:06(UTC)
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Zyggy your range of invisible PPE is the future, the lads in work loved the invisible gloves you sent through, invisible eye protection would solve so many problems for spectacle wearers.

I have sent through my new card details once again please feel free to use it to widen your "invisible" range of PPE.

I am afraid I am not in a position to sign over my house because of legal reasons however I have a luxury penthouse apartment in Mayfair, London, will that do? Its only worth £15 million now because of the recession, sorry.
Safety Smurf  
#28 Posted : 23 September 2011 16:01:03(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

zyggy wrote:
Sean,

As a show of good faith I will also need the deeds to your luxury abode, therefore I have instructed my solicitors, "Sue, Grabbit & Run" to contact you & ask you to sign the necessary details.

They do however work odd hours & may pay a call in the middle of the night, but please ignore the violin cases.

I am also working hard on the patented invisible safety glasses which might be of use to colleagues from another thread.



Zyggy. Thank you for providing the details of you insurers, I believe Trading Standards will be contacting you shortly regarding you claim to be "working hard". ;-)
firesafety101  
#29 Posted : 23 September 2011 17:25:56(UTC)
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firesafety101

Has it hit anyone yet?
HSSnail  
#30 Posted : 27 September 2011 09:03:24(UTC)
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HSSnail

I understand one Mrs Dol Phin is sueing for compensation Chris.

Sorry know its not Friday but could not resist
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