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Zanshin67  
#1 Posted : 26 September 2011 11:59:16(UTC)
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Zanshin67

Hi All I am currently revising a pre-construction plan could anyone please expand give guidance on the following areas. Difficulties in relation to existing plant and equipment: Significant and principal risks identified during design: Materials requiring particular precautions: information and as-built drawings of the structure, its plant and equipment (e.g. the means of safe access to and from service voids, fire doors and compartmentalisation etc): Many thanks Dave
JohnW  
#2 Posted : 26 September 2011 13:56:44(UTC)
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JohnW

Dave, not sure what your question means but let me have a bash at some of it. Difficulties in relation to existing plant and equipment: - in your plan there should be a list of all the construction/lifting equipment that is planned to be used. Whether owned or hired, ensure they comply with LOLER regs where applicable, with statutory exam documents, that includes any harnesses and accessories, FLTs, telehandlers etc. - all operators of vehicles and lifting trucks hoists etc should have documented training Significant and principal risks identified during design: - getting materials to where they are needed e.g. steel, glazing, large items etc - handling other special construction materials - design/plan of the scaffolding, e.g. how will it be tied - if refurbishment, asbestos management - fire safety. Fire Risk Assessment, and know at what times it needs revision e.g. when there are staircases installed, roof is on, windows installed, how many accessible exits, assembly point, klaxons, is there a Fire Marshall - Traffic management/map required, pedestrian entrance/exits, routes for dumper trucks, telehandlers etc. - define location for block cutting which creates dust and noise. - etc Materials requiring particular precautions: - cement, need a COSHH assessment, provide PPE, training or toolbox talks - flammable materials and equipment e.g. plumber torches, paint, solvents, sealants, and storage of. JohnW
PH2  
#3 Posted : 26 September 2011 14:42:40(UTC)
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PH2

David, a similar question was posed last week. Another contributor responded as follows: "One requirement on the CDM-C is to know and understand the CDM regs. My view on this topic is you don't know the CDM Regs. so should not even think about being CDM-C. Maybe harsh but true - IMO." I suspect that this is a similar situation.
harpa  
#4 Posted : 26 September 2011 14:53:37(UTC)
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harpa

Dave, Got to admit I was a little perturbed by your questions. Far be it from anyone to stop a fella earning a crust but if you need to ask questions like that you should seriously consider whether you have the relevant competence to be revising (reviewing?) a Pre-Construction Information Pack or a Construction Phase Plan. My advice is just be careful you are not opening yourself up to problems down the road if something goes wrong. Harps
Zanshin67  
#5 Posted : 26 September 2011 15:33:11(UTC)
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Zanshin67

Fair comment stay within the limitations of your knowledge I was just testing the water and wanted to gain an insight from CDMcs also wanted to pose a scenario and gauge the response. the rest is a matter of opinion
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 26 September 2011 20:02:28(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Seems your looking at one of those "pro-forma" PCI documents. Truth is Dave, without knowing the ins and outs of the Project specifics, we can't enlighten further. It may well be that for the particular Project the answers to those 4 issues are "none" or "not applicable"
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 27 September 2011 08:24:21(UTC)
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boblewis

CDM07 does NOT require a pre-construction plan - It does require pre-construction information so any PCP offered to me is in many ways ignored and I will continue to ask for PCI. Is it not time that hypothetical questions of this nature cease to be asked? If one wants to bounce ideas then we should be open about this. Equally consulyancies should be open about their need to find information. Having been bitten in the past by the latter I am reluctant to provide a lifetime of experience for others to make a sizeable chunk of money Bob
Ron Hunter  
#8 Posted : 27 September 2011 11:20:56(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Ah, but you shouldn't have to ask Bob- duty holders are required to provide it to you at the right time! ;-)
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 27 September 2011 11:23:10(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Free resources available here too: https://www.aps.org.uk/guidance.html
bob youel  
#10 Posted : 27 September 2011 13:20:50(UTC)
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bob youel

I agree with Bob L re 'bitten in the past'
firesafety101  
#11 Posted : 27 September 2011 16:43:48(UTC)
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firesafety101

currently revising a pre-construction plan - surely it will be well out of date by now? Must have been written a good few years ago. No PCP now. I agree with Bob L. PH2 in post #3 has quoted me from another thread. I say no more!
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