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Hi,
Hope someone will know the answer to this...
We put the orange and black COSHH symbols onto all our COSHH assessments we do, and I was wondering if I should now start changing them to the newer symbols that have been introduced as part GHS??
I'm not sure really whether these are fully implemented in the UK yet, and whether or not it actually affect us, as we dont actualy manufacturer them, we just use certain chemicals for vehicle repairs works...
Any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks & TGI Friday!! :)
James.
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Use both until 2015, then only use the newer symbols.
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They aren't "COSHH" symbols, they're CHIP symbols.
What purpose is served by inserting them on your COSHH Risk Assessment? Do you need any symbols on your paperwork?
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The art of communication is to use different methods and that includes written as well as pictorial. My COSHH paperwork is bright, colourful, aimed at grabbing attention, it is easily understood by all employees AND its not dull, wordy or uninteresting. My risk assessments, JSA’s and method statements use symbols as well as photographs when appropriate. Where ever and when ever possible I aim to attract the eye and the subconscious as well as being blatantly obvious.
James, you crack on and continue to steer your thought process and mentality away from the image of H/S being boring, dull and wrapped up in a tweed jacket with leather elbow patches.
And if you want to use CHiP symbols then use them. Heck., I even go to the trouble of identify the class of fire and type of fire extinguisher to be used if the substance is flammable. And yes I do use the fire symbols and little fire extinguisher symbols showing the colour code.
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I had a tweed jacket once. Try as I might, I never yet managed to wear out the elbows.
So............COSHH Assessment. Are we working at compliance with Regulation 6, or are we trying to communicate a safe method to the workforce? Trying to do both (outwith laboratory type situations) via the same piece of paper doesn't really work in my experience.
Adding a CHIP symbol IMHO doesn't add any value to Reg 6 considerations. (e.g.) black cross on orange background still needs supplementary text to explain.
People have to know what these symbols mean and including them on an assessment is no alternative to information instruction and training in comprehensible form (COSHH Regulation 12).
Colour is great - until all you have is a b&w photocopier.
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Thank you for your help Betta :)
Ron - perhaps its time for a new jacket....
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So why do you put symbols onto COSHH assessments jsnorman?
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Did you not know? They're actually called CHIP symbols...
Not that I feel have to justify the reason to you, as this is a forum for professionals to share advice, and I'm quite new to the safety field, and therefore I rely on these forums to get good advice from others, such as Betta when I am unsure of the answer...But as Betta says "The art of communication is to use different methods and that includes written as well as pictorial".
We just feel that this works for us, perhaps not for your good self, which is just as OK.
Have a lovely weekend Ron.
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Well well! My earlier brevity presumably perceived as hostility, my later attempt to open out an exchange of views interpreted as challenging or perhaps even threatening?
This discussion forum is an excellent resource to share, debate and exchange views,jsnorman. I suggest you could make better use of it in future by entering into a reasoned debate - there is always something to be gained by discussing opposing views beyond the 'feeling' that something works.
There are some excellent signs and posters available which explain the current CHIP symbols. One of those on the wall of the garage or workshop and the job's a good 'un, and you've no worries as to whether your documents have out-of-date symbols on them. I'm wholly with Betta on the importance of getting important safety messages to the workforce - but I also like to avoid unecessary work!
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Hi all, I too place the pictograms on our Coshh assessments as a picture seems well received by everyone who reviews or require them, even plaudits from Achilles, CHAS, safe contractor and construction line, but most importantly our employees.
The new symbols from the implementation of CLP are already in force are may be used in tandem with the CHIP pictograms but the new CLP symbols will soley be used as of 2015!
There is some correlation between some of the pictograms but this is not across the board, the risk and safety statements
Are being replaced by precautionary and hazard statements. The safety data sheets (SDS) should point out which scheme the Coshh assessment should be based on. Currently some of our assessments have either both sets of symbols or just the CHIP pictograms.
Ron Hunter - I do not care if the inclusion of pictograms is necessary, for me each person is different in their approach and this system is very effective.
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Ron I'm more than grateful to hear you views, and I appreciate them, I would never feel threatened by them trust me.
Thank you Grant as well, I appreciate your response. I feel a bit more comfortable now with what I'm doing with regards to these, so ALL input was extremely appreciated.
Thanks again!
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