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jay  
#41 Posted : 07 October 2011 12:45:56(UTC)
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jay

Yes, PPE should be the last resort. However, in many cases, PPE also happens to be a SFAIRP additional control measure. For the risk of an eye injury, however "low", the cost of basic eye-protection is insignificant. This was recognised in the chemical industry decades ago. Somehow, due to the safety culture in the construction industry, there appears to be resistance.
DNW  
#42 Posted : 07 October 2011 13:11:26(UTC)
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DNW

Rhodes22022 wrote:
All personnel are required to wear light eye protection, (as well as the other bits of the "uniform"), as a minimum on our construction sites and there has never been any complaints. We were having a lot of minor eye injuries with dust getting into eyes, as you would expect on a construction site, and this went some way to alleviating the problem. Other more task specific ppe would obviously be specified as required. Allan
Surely in this instance the source of the dust should be controlled? Sprinkler systems could be used to alleviate this. We even used an old road sweeper (appropriately maintained) on one of our sites, it was used solely to spray water and keep the dust down. Unfortunately for smaller sub-contractors (which most, if not all big sites now consisit of) this is a cost PC's dont want to shoulder responsibilty for, its cheaper for them to enforce mandatory LEP.
SteveL  
#43 Posted : 07 October 2011 13:31:17(UTC)
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SteveL

When the majority of persons who agree with the wearing of light eye protection (LEP), actually start to work on site,and I mean work, not walk around site saying how well are PPE works, then removing all the PPE to sit in the office, then say that it is worth it. You are supposed to remove the source that requires the wearing of PPE. So when you suppress the dust on site you do not require the light eye protection. If the dust is enough on site to require LEP, then what are you going to do about the lungs, or don't people breath on site. Enough dust to protect eyes but lungs. What now wear a dust mask as well.How are any of the PC going to prove that the lung conditions that people are suffering is not due to site dust conditions, if they keep with the reason for wearing LEP is down to dust conditions on site. As for it does not harm your eyes, I never needed to wear glasses to be able to focus, 2 years down the line of being forced by PC to wear mandatory eye protection now have to wear glasses all time . Maybe age, but may not be.
John J  
#44 Posted : 07 October 2011 16:26:34(UTC)
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John J

stevel wrote:
When the majority of persons who agree with the wearing of light eye protection (LEP), actually start to work on site,and I mean work, not walk around site saying how well are PPE works, then removing all the PPE to sit in the office, then say that it is worth it. You are supposed to remove the source that requires the wearing of PPE. So when you suppress the dust on site you do not require the light eye protection. If the dust is enough on site to require LEP, then what are you going to do about the lungs, or don't people breath on site. Enough dust to protect eyes but lungs. What now wear a dust mask as well.How are any of the PC going to prove that the lung conditions that people are suffering is not due to site dust conditions, if they keep with the reason for wearing LEP is down to dust conditions on site. As for it does not harm your eyes, I never needed to wear glasses to be able to focus, 2 years down the line of being forced by PC to wear mandatory eye protection now have to wear glasses all time . Maybe age, but may not be.
I'm fortunate from both sides. I was a fitter when it was introduced so had to wear it all the time. I'm now in a position where I decide on the use of it in conjuction with our unions. If somebody can get an eye specialist to tell me that wearing LEP damages your eyes I will review our policy. Unfortunately the opposite is true and many report that they have ended up treating perfectly avoidable eye injuries through lack of a few pounds worth of eye protection.
RayRapp  
#45 Posted : 07 October 2011 19:28:24(UTC)
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RayRapp

I think it is fair to comment that to what extent wearing LEP is a imposition depends largely on the tasks, environment, the quality and variety of glasses provided. For instance, when I have issued tinted glasses in sunny weather there is not much dissent from the troops. Therefore it may be a perception issue and perhaps people do get accustomed to them eventually. Notwithstanding that, it still does not disguise the fact that too many employers choose mandatory PPE and often for no good reason - that I suggest is the crux of the matter. Do we assess the need for PPE or not?
John M  
#46 Posted : 09 October 2011 00:08:50(UTC)
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John M

Safety Smurf wrote:
John M wrote:
Quote: I worked on a £6000 million project were we made light eye protection mandatory the only exception was if a worker was out side in the rain That is some project indeed. I thought £1 billion was big! Jon
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was finished in 6 days. ;-)
No - it will take four years from enableing works through civils, M&E to commissioning and hand over. Cost £1.3 billion not £6 billion. Hope this helps. Jon
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