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mph  
#1 Posted : 14 October 2011 07:51:27(UTC)
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mph

Our single biggest H&S issue (as with many other companies) is that of injury / lost time resulting from Manual Handling activities. We have carried out all of the following: • Risk Assessed our activities and communicated the findings and Safe Systems of Work to all staff • We have fully trained internal instructors who deliver face to face training to all of our people at maximum intervals of two years. • For all incidents and accidents we carry out in depth investigations to determine root causes and implement identified corrective measures. Despite all this, Manual Handling related issues continue to occur. Can anyone suggest what more we could / should be doing. Thank you.
Kate  
#2 Posted : 14 October 2011 08:20:40(UTC)
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Kate

You say you've communicated the findings of the risk assessments - you don't say you've acted on them. What about actions to reduce the manual handling risks - redesign of the work to reduce the extent of manual handling, mechanical aids and so on?
IanF  
#3 Posted : 14 October 2011 09:01:42(UTC)
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IanF

MPH - have you thought about how this links to the tasks people perform, or the environment they perform it in? For instance, if staff are working in a cold area, they may be more susceptible to injury. If they are rushing to get a job done (e.g. assigned it 5 minutes before knocking off time), they are going to cut corners and rush, etc?
Smith24364  
#4 Posted : 14 October 2011 12:15:38(UTC)
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Smith24364

Manual handling is a significant issue in my organisation's work environment and we had carried out all of the usual assessments and training and had brought in a number of external specialist to provide a more objective approach. Although this had some effect, MH continued to present problems. We had the advantage of using an external company to carry out secret shopping exercises on our behalf and had asked the assessors to keep an eye of the manual handling behaviour of the staff and realised that most of the advice and training was being ignored. We followed this up by commissioning an independent ergonomist to carry out some assessments at various sites in relation to general work practices and requested that he provided a specific focus on manual handling behaviour. Although the ethics of these two approaches may be scientifically questionable, the information provided has been very useful and has resulted in a series of video and elearning training packages( not as expensive as I had feared), which involved staff in realistic situations that we hope will improve the observance of manual handling techniques and training by staff.
KieranD  
#5 Posted : 14 October 2011 12:38:21(UTC)
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1. The longterm costs of any unethical approach could be very, very expensive, not simply in safety standards but also in terms of management behaviour and possibly of litigation. I state that unequivocally as a registered ergonomist as well as a chartered safety and health practitioner, chartered HR practitioner and chartered/registered occupational psychologist. 2. The approaches you haven't mentioned nvolve bona fide methods of consulting and engaging first line managers; they more than anyone else are physically, mentally and emotionally best positioned to report on barriers to effective implementation of effective MH training. If they need ergonomic training, that may be part of the solution. Two very powerful (alternative) methods of coaching them are conceptual mapping (developed by Bill Troachim at Cornell University and widely used for evaluating organisational behaviour) and repertory grids, widely used in the UK in the 1980s though perhaps in more adventurous applications.
Invictus  
#6 Posted : 14 October 2011 12:39:59(UTC)
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Invictus

quote=MPH]Our single biggest H&S issue (as with many other companies) is that of injury / lost time resulting from Manual Handling activities. We have carried out all of the following: • Risk Assessed our activities and communicated the findings and Safe Systems of Work to all staff • We have fully trained internal instructors who deliver face to face training to all of our people at maximum intervals of two years. • For all incidents and accidents we carry out in depth investigations to determine root causes and implement identified corrective measures. Despite all this, Manual Handling related issues continue to occur. Can anyone suggest what more we could / should be doing. Thank you.
Just one thought you say that you retrain every two years have you analysed, who is getting hurt and when. Are they getting hurt say after sim months, one year from the initial/refresher training? Maybe you need to refresher train more frequently. I have asked the staff, maybe they need to work to fast ans therefore are carrying more weight than recommended or is there a lot of twisting and turning so the process may need looking at.
Invictus  
#7 Posted : 14 October 2011 12:41:19(UTC)
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Invictus

Should say 'Six months'
Smith24364  
#8 Posted : 14 October 2011 12:50:08(UTC)
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Smith24364

My comments relating to ethics were not in relation to the use of the ergonomist, who would not have accepted such a remit, but should have focused solely on the gathering of the initial information that led to using his speficic skills. The information provided by the more formal assessment resulted in the subsequent changes to the training practices. No slight on ergonomists was intended.
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 14 October 2011 13:22:16(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The obvious missing links in your post are supervision and monitoring. Poor behaviours and poor supervision should be challenged and corrected before the accident happens. Other aspects of the task design we cannot see, but others will allude to ergnomics, work pacing and a "suitable and sufficient" risk assessment - i.e. elimination or reduction sfarp. Did the risk assessment challenge the current work practice and determine improvements? If you're still having a high number of incidents, there is a flaw with that assessment.
Safety Smurf  
#10 Posted : 14 October 2011 13:58:24(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

MPH, What has your staff turnover been like historically?
mph  
#11 Posted : 14 October 2011 18:46:30(UTC)
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mph

Very low staff turnover.
mph  
#12 Posted : 14 October 2011 18:49:33(UTC)
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mph

My thanks to you all for your input, some interesting thoughts. Mike
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