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Ella  
#1 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:09:09(UTC)
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Ella

I have been advised by a workshop technician that his manager has taken away protective gloves and insisted that they use barrier cream instead. One of the workshops technician has dermatitis and has been supplying his own gloves. I think that when workers are dealing with dielels and oils they should be supplied with gloves as a ppe. Has anyone got experience in this field. I would welcome some advise. Thank you.
Murray18822  
#2 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:18:00(UTC)
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Murray18822

The provision of suitable safety gloves should take precedence over the barrier cream I would have thought as it is more likely to offer a greater degree of protection. Have a look on the HSE website and print off the guidance about 'Skin at work' and bring the details to the manager's attention.
BigRab  
#3 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:27:00(UTC)
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BigRab

I think the question I would ask of the manager is "Why have you taken the gloves away?" He would need to have a very good reason for substituting a control measure that might work (the barrier cream) for a proven control measure (the gloves) that definitely works for all. I have extensive experience in the Motor Vehicle trade and have been advising a number of dealerships for the last 8 years. I always advise that gloves be worn when handling used engine oil as it is suspected of being a carcinogen. Gloves are also effective in preventing de-fatting of skin and most technicians prefer them because they don't end up with ingrained dirt on their hands and fingernails.
MB1  
#4 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:30:31(UTC)
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MB1

I'm sure Chris Packam will pass this by sometime soon. To give posative advice regarding use of barrier cream and it's effectiveness as opposed to gloves!
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:43:22(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

In the meantime, and as it's Friday; if this is a formal management/union dispute, presumably the gloves are off anyway? I'll get me coat. Tumbleweed can constitute a tripping hazard don't you know............
Andrew W Walker  
#6 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:53:10(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

ron hunter wrote:
In the meantime, and as it's Friday; if this is a formal management/union dispute, presumably the gloves are off anyway? I'll get me coat. Tumbleweed can constitute a tripping hazard don't you know............
I winced when I read that Andy
RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:54:36(UTC)
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RayRapp

'I think the question I would ask of the manager is "Why have you taken the gloves away?"' Agreed, the only legitimate reason I can think of is the gloves could present a hazard if working with rotating machinery, otherwise the manager has much to answer for.
jay  
#8 Posted : 14 October 2011 16:59:15(UTC)
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jay

Refer to HSE's General FAQs on Skin at Work:- http://www.hse.gov.uk/skin/faq/general.htm Can I use barrier creams instead of gloves? No. There are no true ‘barrier’ creams – chemicals will always work their way through to the skin. However, moisturising creams used regularly will help keep skin hydrated and supple, helping to prevent dermatitis. The so called barrier creams are not meant to susbtitute gloves!
John J  
#9 Posted : 14 October 2011 18:05:04(UTC)
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John J

I'm sure Chris will add a word of caution on the glove selection in relation to oils. I recently purchased a UV light cabinet with a barrier cream type liquid. I use it to demonstrate effective use of barrier cream, contamination control and correct hand washing. Not a single person, so far,(out of close on 300) has put it on and got full coverage. All have said they have never put it on as thoroughly and are surprised they have left gaps - usually thumbs, nail beds and between the fingers. In short, from my experience, it has limited value and many argue it gives a false sense of security. Correctly selected glove/s have to be preferable if contact with the oil can't be ruled out.
Phil Hill  
#10 Posted : 16 October 2011 17:20:47(UTC)
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Phil Hill

I would check your COSSH sheets for said work area. They will advise as to what level of protection is required, gloves are designed with different levels of permeability and the data sheet will inform you as to what level is needed. All the best. PH
Phil Hill  
#11 Posted : 16 October 2011 17:48:19(UTC)
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Phil Hill

COSHH even :0S
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