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rockybalboa  
#1 Posted : 21 October 2011 09:18:58(UTC)
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rockybalboa

I was reading the IOSH salary survey 2009 to see where I was in the great scheme of things and whilst Im doing ok I feel my renumeration could be better. Does anyone else feel underpaid and over utilised or is this the time to be grateful to have a job at all?
HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 21 October 2011 09:25:33(UTC)
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HSSnail

Rocky have felt undervalued for a long time. But now I see people in similar jobs who were paid more being made redundant while my employers control of the purse strings so far as meant reduced impact (not no impact I add and sad for those who have lost their jobs) so it will not take me long to financial be better off than if I had been paid a few thousand more for the last few years.
Norfolkboy  
#3 Posted : 21 October 2011 09:35:59(UTC)
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Norfolkboy

If you read the ever more desparate posts from Iosh members looking for work - I think we should just be gratefull for employment. I have recently completed the Diploma and three years ago could have walked into any number of posts today I am lucky to have a role as a Quality Manager.
rockybalboa  
#4 Posted : 21 October 2011 09:56:05(UTC)
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rockybalboa

Both fair points which I feel err on the side of caution and be happy to have a job. Maybe Im just getting itchy feet as I think its easier to be able to grab another branch before letting go of the last one. Not so sure if its clever or foolhardy to be intentionally trying to move in and out of jobs in this market.
NickH  
#5 Posted : 21 October 2011 10:00:37(UTC)
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NickH

After being made redundant in 2009, it took me a year to get back into another H&S role. The salary on offer at the time was about £10k less than I was used to, but in this market, I was happy to grab it. Salary has now improved following me proving my worth, but still not quite back to where I was a couple of years ago. In the current market, if you are relatively happy in your role, in my opinion, it is better to stick it out until things improve. Others may have differing opinions, but for the foreseeable future, this is what I will be doing.
DP  
#6 Posted : 21 October 2011 15:38:26(UTC)
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DP

Not an ideal time to be thinking the grass maybe greener - if you are doing ok stick tight - unless a great offer comes along of course. I agree with comments regarding the folk trying to get a job - I agree look on here? There is very little out there and if you do get a role the pay will be low driven by the climate we are in I have always felt that in comparison to other roles in organisations (excluding the public sector where rigid pay scales are in place) that safety personnel don’t get a fair deal. Had this conversation many time with peers and they tend to agree - how many safety managers are on over 50K - I know a few but no many compared to other roles where similar competencies / disciplines are required.
Clairel  
#7 Posted : 21 October 2011 17:09:27(UTC)
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Clairel

I've recently started in a job that is below what I used to earn. Yes I think I'm worth more but that's not the point is it. At the end of the day I accepted this job on the basis of working for a reportedly good employer that treats staff well in, working an industry that interests me and with working conditions that often allow me the flexibility not to work 9-5. Earning less maybe - but money isn't everything. You need a base line income but above that working conditions count for a lot. I'd rather have both but this is the real world and I have now opted for better working conditions and a lower salary. I've had the slightly higher salary but being treated appallingly and I know which I prefer. I now consider myself lucky to work for a good employer. And I'm not going to compare myself to other professions. Far more worthy professions get paid far less.
stuie  
#8 Posted : 21 October 2011 21:19:36(UTC)
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stuie

Yes I do feel undervalued, that is why I am taking the step of moving on; maybe I am lucky or foolhardy (only time will tell - unless anyone has a crystal ball that they rent out?) - I don't know - all I know is that I am looking forward to a 15% pay rise, a better pension, hopefully less hassle, and a more committed (to H&S IMHO) employer, working in a sector that will always be needed -food. For those that are interested I was approached (or would you call it head-hunted?) completely out of the blue via LinkedIn; went for the interview(s) and hey presto!
Andrew W Walker  
#9 Posted : 24 October 2011 10:29:23(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

Underpaid? Yes. Happy in my work? No. Sound advice is not listened to. By "sound" I mean- Organise the warehouse to keep the FLT away from people. I have given them options on how to do this. Looking for another position? Next year. I am self funding a few quals that I hope will help. Andy
Terry556  
#10 Posted : 24 October 2011 13:00:39(UTC)
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Terry556

Undervalued yes? I am not on a great salary, but happy with what I have achieved over the past 3 years, I have asked for a pay rise, lets wait and see, as there are not many jobs out there at the moment
phargreaves04  
#11 Posted : 24 October 2011 13:16:53(UTC)
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phargreaves04

Would be interested to know if the category membership really reflects the average annual salary i.e. the report states Grad Iosh average salary £35.058 is that right ??
Terry556  
#12 Posted : 24 October 2011 13:39:20(UTC)
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Terry556

£35,058 I wish, If I had £25,000 it would be a start
SP900308  
#13 Posted : 24 October 2011 14:03:09(UTC)
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SP900308

Seems a bit light to me! Goes to show that an 'average' will be considerably different depending on location, sector, experience, etc.
SP900308  
#14 Posted : 24 October 2011 14:15:40(UTC)
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SP900308

In response to the original post, yes I too feel undervalued. However, grateful to have so far ridden the storm, without having a pay cut imposed or reduced hours, I am not about to complain! If I was a welder, and the market was swamped with welders, I'd expect the salary to reflect. That said, if I was a specialist welder and in great demand, equally I'd expect the salary to reflect!
Nikki-Napo  
#15 Posted : 24 October 2011 15:59:58(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

I'm pleased to hear you got new employment Claire. :-) I'm well chuffed for you, as you come across as knowledgeable and you're always helpful too. So far, I can't comment on the salary side as mine is a great big 0 at present. Still searching, and still optimistic.
Clairel  
#16 Posted : 25 October 2011 14:04:59(UTC)
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Clairel

Nikki-Napo wrote:
I'm pleased to hear you got new employment Claire. :-) I'm well chuffed for you, as you come across as knowledgeable and you're always helpful too. So far, I can't comment on the salary side as mine is a great big 0 at present. Still searching, and still optimistic.
awwwww thanks :-) ......I think many people will beg to differ about me being knowledgeable and helpful though!!!;-) Good luck with the job search.
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