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If the rumour currently flying around that the HSE website may be merged with the "Directgov" website is true, then how or where will contractors get any H&S information?
Regards
Andy
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You might then try DirectGov
Doh!
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The origin of the rumour is in the minutes of the Tyre and Rubber Industries Safety Action Group, so not exactly a main channel of communication, though it is one of the formal HSE serviced committees and (according to the minutes) had three [reference removed] at the meeting.
It is in the minutes as a "may" happen:
Quote:HSE’s web site – this may become part of the ‘DirectGov’ website along with all other Govt departments & agencies. SG members expressed their concern at this possibility and of future ownership issues. However, this is Government policy and there is nothing that can be done.
I note that it has been government policy for some time to close all government web sites other than direct.gov.uk and businesslink.gov.uk but it seems that a lot of the websites in question haven't been told about it - at least, they seem to be carrying on regardless even after their death has been announced.
Direct.gov already has some health and safety at work information - for example http://www.direct.gov.uk...dSafetyAtWork/DG_4016686 but it doesn't seem to be a patch on the HSE web site level of detail (it's targeted more at 'what your employer should be doing for you').
I don't believe it is as real or imminent a threat as has been suggested. If you do regularly refer to something that you re-download each time, it may be prudent to save a copy, but I think both the likelihood and imminence of the demise is overstated.
I have been trying to ask HSE to comment about the rumour, but with the closure of their telephone line it's actually quite difficult to talk to them. Does anyone have suggestions about communicating with HSE now infoline is no more?
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I hate the directgov website (and I work for the government!). I can never find anything and there are loads of broken links and it tends to provide information which is very vague and general not the specialised stuff that we need on H&S. If this happens it would be a retrograde step. IOSH should raise this with the powers that be and tell them as much.
Of course if you can’t find the right H&S information, you are more likely to be in breach of H&S requirements, so the HSE can send you a bill!
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I think Ian has it! It seems to me that the answer to your question, lies within the question itself!
Is it Friday already?
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achrn wrote:
and (according to the minutes) had three [reference removed] at the meeting.
The '[reference removed]' in my posting was the word 'HSE' followed by teh word 'people'.
Is that a term of abuse?
[reference removed] are probably very nice. Seems it is.
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With regrds to the comment;- "Does anyone have suggestions about communicating with HSE now infoline is no more?"
I have been asking this question via a number of avenue's for some time and the HSE has completely ignored me so can I ask IOSH to ask the question on behalf of the members
NB: The RIDDOR people cannot help; so its no good asking them as they only deal with RIDDOR
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I had the same experience with the same words mentioned by achrn at #6 recently, and used the 'report message' facility to ask what was considered offensive or wrong about the words 'HSE' and 'people' together. To date I've had no reply. As those words are likely to be used fairly regularly by forum users, I'll repeat my plea openly this time for someone to explain why they are censored.
Perhaps there is some sort of automatic system for scanning each forum posting as it arrives for unsuitable/rude words. If so, perhaps the system needs adjusting so that it doesn't react to the word combination. My reason for suggesting this is that some time ago I used the expression "dogged by bad luck" in an e-mail to someone who worked for another local authority. Soon after sending the e-mail I got an automatic e-mail accusing me of using inappropriate language. It seems that some or many organisations have filter systems for words used in e-mails. When I asked one of my own organisation's IT boffins about this matter, he said that e-mails recognised as containing specified proscribed words or phrases will go into e-quarantine for visual checking by authorised IT staff. In the vast majority of cases apparently, the words which trigger such quarantine are found to be innocuous in their context.
p.s. just in case part of the sample phrase used above is deemed offensive, the likely offending word consists of "do" followed by "gged"!
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Achrn I think it may have been removed because if I remember correctly some time ago there was another H&S Forum set up called the initial of Health & Safety Executive People, if you get my drift ;-)
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It is entirely feasible to have a web domain managed in a "host" website whilst retaining the original hse.gov.uk web address.
At most, it might require us to update our favourites after a site redirection, but the retained address will take you to the same page
This assumes of course that the good people at directgov will do things the easy way...............
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Yes, as per #9 I think that there is a website/forum of that name, and as I recall there was some sort of 'fall out' with the 'owner' of the site which resulted in him or her (I suspect a him) posting repeated responses on all of the threads on this forum. It was a rather unpleasant episode!
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To go back to the original point (sorry!), I have to say that moving the HSE site to DirectGov would be a real mistake, and I would hope that IOSH members would collectively say so.
I know the HSE do get a regular shoeing on this Forum, but in my humble opinion I have to say their website is amongst the best information sites on the web - for any subject, anywhere.
....so its bound to be doomed!
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canopener wrote:Yes, as per #9 I think that there is a website/forum of that name, and as I recall there was some sort of 'fall out' with the 'owner' of the site which resulted in him or her (I suspect a him) posting repeated responses on all of the threads on this forum. It was a rather unpleasant episode!
Sorry, the Moderating team did not spot this conversation earlier. Canopener is correct - we had an appalling spamming episode from another forum and their name has evidently been put on the 'barred list' to prevent it happening again. Edited by user 10 November 2011 22:23:56(UTC)
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