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safetyman2010		#1 Posted : 15 November 2011 20:54:36(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Hi, Quick query. Is it poor pratice for a fire exit door to be used as a general access & egress door within an office environment. The door is push bar format. Cheers
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Allan Jones		#2 Posted : 15 November 2011 22:27:47(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		It's not poor practice, in fact it's fairly common to find businesses doing this. The only downside with these doors being used more frequently will raise the chances of it requiring more up keep and maintenance.
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NickH		#3 Posted : 16 November 2011 09:39:58(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		As Allan has said, this is quite a copmmon practice. However, if the door is of 'push bar' type, how do staff gain both access and egress via this route? If the door is being used in both directions, how are they managing this without preventing the door from fully closing?
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firesafety101		#4 Posted : 16 November 2011 10:07:10(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Not a problem, in fact it helps employee to become familiar with that means of escape. Make sure they are aware of all others as well. As above more wear and tear so more frequent maintenance may be needed.
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England37867		#5 Posted : 17 November 2011 11:24:00(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		If it's used regularly it also means it's being tested on a frequent basis (part of the RRFSO) and therefore any defects will/should be reported promptly.
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Kate		#6 Posted : 17 November 2011 11:44:22(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		And a door that never gets opened is liable to stick when you do need it to open - using the door prevents this.
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stillp		#7 Posted : 17 November 2011 11:51:34(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Another advantage is that access gangway to the door is not likely to be impeded.
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Salis		#8 Posted : 21 November 2011 16:16:11(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		We do use a number of fire doors as access doors, we use a fob control system for access and egress, works well. and on a plus side, a used door rarely gets blocked.
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MaxPayne		#9 Posted : 22 November 2011 15:42:52(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		nickh wrote: As Allan has said, this is quite a copmmon practice. However, if the door is of 'push bar' type, how do staff gain both access and egress via this route? If the door is being used in both directions, how are they managing this without preventing the door from fully closing? You can get/fit a push pad/bar which has an external knob. The knob can then be disabled via a key and therefore the door is locked from an external perspective but remains a compliant fire exit as it reamains operational via the internal push pad/bar.
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