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Jedi Knight  
#1 Posted : 17 November 2011 09:59:29(UTC)
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Jedi Knight

Hi Folks,

Bit of an odd one this. A business I work for will be undertaking some work on the roof of an office building in central london (HVAC stuff). The client has recently installed a beehive on the roof I understand as part of their corporate/social responsibility / trying to be eco friendly drive.

The work required has to take place near the beehive any ideas on what precautions might be neccesary?

I would suggest no-one who is known allergic to beestings and keep arms and legs covered and a hat, but wondering wether we need to go to the extent of having a beekeeper in with the smoke thing they use etc.

Cheers.
Guru  
#2 Posted : 17 November 2011 10:17:16(UTC)
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Guru

i found this document, which might be of help?

http://www.edinburghbeek...uk/downloads/H&S.pdf

Jedi Knight  
#3 Posted : 17 November 2011 10:31:03(UTC)
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Jedi Knight

Thanks a few useful bits in there.
Jane Blunt  
#4 Posted : 17 November 2011 10:41:57(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

A friend of mine once used to keep a beehive at the bottom of my garden.

I found I could work very close to the hive quite safely, but I kept my head out of the flight path. The bees had a very narrow path down which they flew in and out of the hive, and this was best avoided. I could, however, dig the vegetable plot underneath their flight path, provided I kept my head out of the way.

Stand and watch them for a few minutes and you will soon see where this is.

Obviously I avoided knocking into the hive itself!
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 17 November 2011 13:01:39(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

These flight paths change frequently depending on where the food source is. There might be days when you're in the flight path!
safetyamateur  
#6 Posted : 17 November 2011 13:06:48(UTC)
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safetyamateur

Are the bees just left to their own devices or does someone 'keep' them?
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 17 November 2011 16:07:59(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The old gag goes:

#1 "I keep bees"

#2 "What, against their will?"
farmsafety  
#8 Posted : 17 November 2011 16:16:00(UTC)
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farmsafety

Suggest seeking the advice of the British Beekeepers Association: http://www.bbka.org.uk/
cliveg  
#9 Posted : 17 November 2011 18:42:45(UTC)
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cliveg

Hello

My wife keeps bees, and I get dragged in to help - the bees don't seem to like me much, and I don't react well to getting stung. When I go anywhere near them, I am fully booted and suited!

If I were you, I would ask the firm to contact the bee-keeper and ask them to move the bees for the duration of the work. This can easily be done.

Whilst the advice here is good, I know from personal experience that they can be very moody depending on what is going on within the hive; the weather; and how much food is about. They get particularly stroppy when it gets windy, as it often is on the top of high buildings.....

Believe me they do not like power tools!! I tried using a strimmer near a couple of our hives and had to beat a hasty retreat when they flooded out in considerable numbers with malice aforethought.
cliveg  
#10 Posted : 17 November 2011 20:57:13(UTC)
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cliveg

A couple of other quick things.

If the work you are doing is relatively quick, say two or three hours, and if it is relatively quiet work then it may be possible to get the blocked up for the duration.
The winter is a good time to do this as they are mainly dormant, and the colder the better. The hive would need to be blocked up whilst it is still dark.

If the work will cause a good deal of noise and disturbance, blocking up the hive may be okay for the workers, but the bees inside may panic and 'ball' the queen - not as much fun as it sounds, they basically cluster round her so tightly to 'protect' her that they suffocate her. So the beekeeper would lose the colony.

If the hive is moved it has to be moved at least 3 miles away, otherwise they will just fly back to where the hive used to be - and no doubt will find your workers.....

Hope all this helps - Bees are fascinating things really!


Graham Bullough  
#11 Posted : 18 November 2011 17:22:02(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

This topic is novel and evidently caused quite a buzz yesterday!! Asking the hive owner and also bee experts for advice is sensible as already suggested. Also, if the bees hibernate or expire during the winter months, this could offer a (relatively) safe season window.

Straying off topic (as I tend to do) I wonder what London honey tastes like, and also just how many flowers there are in Central London from which the bees can collect nectar. Even so, despite my limited knowledge of such matters, I understand that bees help to provide a vital service in pollinating plants with flowers. If there isn't much competition from other hives, perhaps the bees involved have plenty of flowers to visit.

Also, mention of a safe season reminds me to think about removing a number of wasps’ nests from my loft during the coming winter. I found them during the summer but, though they were probably from two or more summers ago and likely to be empty, I chose to leave them alone as they were close to the eaves and unlikely to get disturbed. Although I understand that only queen wasps survive through winters, I’ll probably still put on gloves and my anti-midge net - just in case. Years ago I removed a wasps’ nest in winter from a friend’s loft and was amazed by how such small insects could collectively produce such a large structure and especially the hexagonal chambers inside. As it seemed a shame to just chuck the nest away another friend took it (sawn in half to reveal the chamber pattern) to display at the primary school where she worked.
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