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davidjohn#1  
#1 Posted : 17 November 2011 10:12:10(UTC)
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davidjohn#1

Hi to all, I currently work in a fire safety role and to date have successfully completed both the Nebosh general and Fire safety and risk management certificates. I have 4 years practical experience as a retained firefighter and have worked for my current employer for 4 years in the role of a fire safety officer. I also do some voluntary work on my days off in order to gain some practical health and safety knowledge. My employer wont support me financially for my career progression as its not part of my job description to have such qualifications to enable me to carry out my role. I therefore have to fund my course's, which means I have to be cautious that I choose the right course. As previously mentioned I have studied and paid for the two Nebosh certificates and am now looking to study either the Nebosh dip or the FIA European Fire dip but am not sure which one would best suit me. I have a strong interest in both fire and health and safety but am confused as to what path of study to take and weather I should aim for a career in health and safety as it covers a wide variety or aim to specialise in fire safety. Can anyone help with my decision? Regards Newby
DP  
#2 Posted : 17 November 2011 11:25:18(UTC)
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DP

Hiya Newby Its an extremely difficult time to gain any employment as you know and this profession is suffering too - read the comments on these boards from many vastly experienced safety people? I'm undecided in my opinion of whether the role of an H&S Manager, Officer, Advisor etc has peaked - the other end of this current recession will confirm this though when things pick up. There is a lot happening in safety at the moment - politicians want some de regulation - whilst wanting to charge for regulation and then driving lower risk environments into income creating Lead Authority Partnerships. Its been posted on here that established institutions of learning are dropping graduate safety programmes!! My advice would be don’t undertake purely safety / fire qualifications - consider broader risk management qualifications, which include many aspects of compliance. IMO - this will make you more appealing to recruiters when and if things pick up. DP
HSSnail  
#3 Posted : 17 November 2011 11:32:07(UTC)
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HSSnail

Newby As DP says its a very difficult time in the job market. Qualifications today mean little without experience and it can be very difficult to take a junior position if you happen to be in a more mature position in terms of supporting family etc. From that point if view I would have thought that to pursue further qualifications in fire safety would enhance your job prospects the most as you could show the experience and qualification mix. I assume you are continuing with your employment so would be looking for part time or distance learning. As DP has said you may be able to find a course that covers fire or safety with other management elements which would help you. But be prepared these form of training course are not cheep! Good luck
davidjohn#1  
#4 Posted : 17 November 2011 11:59:41(UTC)
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davidjohn#1

Yes, I am employed and would have to do a course online, during my days off or take leave. I do have some knowledge and experience in health and safety as I do get involved in that side of things from time to time during my current role, more so because theres an interest and I raise questions with issues at work. I was more swayed with the fire diploma as Im currently in the role of a fire safety officer and have slightly more knowledge and experience but ultimately Im unsure weather both diplomas will be to indepth and advanced for me to digest and get through. I will ask on the forum if anyone has experience of the two courses and see what the feedback opinion is.
HSSnail  
#5 Posted : 18 November 2011 17:16:07(UTC)
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HSSnail

newby I have been luck to be able to follow a number of learning routes over the years, from a full time BSc Honours course, Day release courses and a Post Graduate Certificate In Occupational Health and Safety Management by Distance learning from Portsmouth University. I think I was on the 1st year that course ran. It a big step up from the NEBOSH certificate Level to Diploma level and distance learning is by far the hardest way to undertake any course. Be prepared for long nights of study I even ended up tacking one module on a family holiday to complete which made me very popular. The biggest problem I found with distance learning was with those areas where we had little activity with my employer, for me that was construction. I found Portsmouth very approachable and helpful in those areas, and I was lucky to be able to network locally with other that understood those aspects better than I. If you go down the H&S route rather than the pure fire rout make full use of you local IOSH branch. I wish you luck with what ever you decide and I am sure you will find either option fascinating.
PIKEMAN  
#6 Posted : 21 November 2011 14:40:29(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

Have you considered working for yourself as a consultant? There do seem to be a lot of organisations who semmto think that for fire safety stuff such as fire risk assessment or even checking extinguishers you have to be an ex firefighter....................! In your case your experience as a retained firefighter migh be a useful asset to you.
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