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don9366		#1 Posted : 18 November 2011 16:39:46(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Ok so winter is here and the guys are cold.. wolly hats under the hard hats?? If hey wear a beany hat (thin) surly its the same as a liner and as long as you adjust the hard hat its ok? Or is it... hoodies up to protect from the wind.. Again we all know that there should be no woolly hats used but what's the difference from someone with a large bushy hair style and someone with a hoody up .. thought on a post card to,,,
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Kralph		#2 Posted : 18 November 2011 17:14:22(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		If it helps there is a product on the market- a weather shield for hard hats. Basically a fleece lined fabric which fits to the hard hat and covers the neck and ears. Haven't used them before so can't give any more specific feedback, but we might look at them for our lads if needs be. Hope this helps. Kris.
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HSSnail		#3 Posted : 18 November 2011 17:21:33(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Don This has been discussed a number of times on this forum with many different opinions. Not sure I have seen hoodies suggested before. For me the a problem with the hoddy is that it is attached to the garment on the persons body. I wonder if this could cause movement of the hoody that could dislodge the hard hat? A purpose made lining should;d have been manufactured to ensure it does not compromise the safety features of the hat.
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Lawlee45239		#4 Posted : 21 November 2011 10:02:01(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		No hats under hard hats, and no hoodies they restrict side view. I agree with the posts above you can get a hard hat liner, these are close fitting to the head, these were used on the Shard in London as the temperature was -something up that high, and they went down a treat with SOME of the guys. There are lots on the market.
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firesafety101		#5 Posted : 21 November 2011 10:33:46(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Once again it's down to risk assessment. You want to protect the head from above but you are also required to protect the employees from extreme weather. IMO if the cap fits ........................... if not get something better for them. Remember it is the duty of the employer to provide PPE and that includes weather protection.
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RayRapp		#6 Posted : 21 November 2011 12:07:18(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Again we all know that there should be no woolly hats used but what's the difference from someone with a large bushy hair style and someone with a hoody up .. No difference as I can tell. Some years ago a client insisted that operatives could not wear anything under their hard hat despite the cold. I asked why, 'because it prevents them from hearing'. What a load of dross.
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MB1		#7 Posted : 21 November 2011 12:10:32(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		If someone in the offshore sector is reading I'm sure they can assist as they are extensively used out there during the winter.
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Clairel		#8 Posted : 21 November 2011 15:24:08(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		don9366 wrote: Again we all know that there should be no woolly hats used Do we all know that???? There's woolly and there's woolly. No problem with any type of sensible hat being used to warm the head. As long as the hard hat still fits (and they are nearly all adjustable) then can't see the problem. It's not affecting the integrity of the hard hat.
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johnha		#9 Posted : 21 November 2011 15:31:06(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		MB1 wrote: If someone in the offshore sector is reading I'm sure they can assist as they are extensively used out there during the winter. An offshore sector person writes: For many years I worked offshore and had what was known as a "zero hood" inside my safety helmet. A piece of manufacturer's supplied equipment. It did the job even though the large neck flap did make me look as if I hade just come from the Foreign Legion. However as we well know safety and comfort come before styling.
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Rory H		#10 Posted : 21 November 2011 15:31:58(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		We use the hard hat liners that cover the back of the neck and the ears and our guys love em!
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AllanFS		#11 Posted : 21 November 2011 16:47:50(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		As johnha says about the ZERO hood, there a good piece of kit as I,ve used them myself when Offshore.There worth investing as they fit really well into a V guard hardhat and cover the ears and side of the face,excellent for those Cold starts.
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