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Morning all,
Can someone please confirm if 5 ton mini digger is required by law to have mirrors?? We have bought a new one and it has come without them, and now I'm confused as to wheather or not it is required.
Thanks
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Lawlee.
I think you are referring to reg 28.e of provision and use of work equipment which stated - where the drivers direct field of vision is inadequate to ensure safety there are adequate devices for improving his vision so far as is reasonably practicable- so I don't think the tonnage is the issue its the vision.
If you intend to drive this vehicle on the public highway then you would need to refer to road traffic legislation.
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Brian Hagyard wrote:Lawlee.
I think you are referring to reg 28.e of provision and use of work equipment which stated - where the drivers direct field of vision is inadequate to ensure safety there are adequate devices for improving his vision so far as is reasonably practicable- so I don't think the tonnage is the issue its the vision.
If you intend to drive this vehicle on the public highway then you would need to refer to road traffic legislation. Why cant the legislation just be written like 'yes it is required for all plant' and not beating around the bush with as fas as is reasonably practicable.....so annoying at times
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Lawlee45239 wrote:Brian Hagyard wrote:Lawlee.
I think you are referring to reg 28.e of provision and use of work equipment which stated - where the drivers direct field of vision is inadequate to ensure safety there are adequate devices for improving his vision so far as is reasonably practicable- so I don't think the tonnage is the issue its the vision.
If you intend to drive this vehicle on the public highway then you would need to refer to road traffic legislation. Why cant the legislation just be written like 'yes it is required for all plant' and not beating around the bush with as fas as is reasonably practicable.....so annoying at times because there is a massive range of plant equipment and it's not necessary (or even helpful) in some cases. That's the whole idea behind risk relative management and the move away from prescription. It's not a new thing. Would you then expect to see wing mirrors fitted to tracked wheel barrow?
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The rule of thumb is that you must be able to see an object one metre high and 1 metre back from the machine.
allan
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allanwood wrote:The rule of thumb is that you must be able to see an object one metre high and 1 metre back from the machine.
allan thank you
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It might be a rule of thumb, but lawlee you should do your own assessment of the work the digger will do and where it will do it.
The guidance HSG144 says
"Visibility aids such as closed-circuit television (CCTV) and convex mirrors should be fitted to vehicles to overcome significant blind spots along the sides and at the rear of large vehicles, particularly where pedestrians are at risk"
and the mirrors option surely should apply to minidiggers where there might be "...significant blind spots along the sides and at the rear .... where pedestrians are at risk". Get the driver to do the assessment with someone (I suppose 1 metre high is a good rule of thumb if someone is crouching).
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Hi Lawlee,
Might help if we can picture it. Is this a 360 or a front loader?
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