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Now my employer has started supplying Blackberrys he has started twitching about a risk assessment for using them as the use of these devices may require awkward hand positions while performing repeated motions on small keypads. Messaging, particularly using the thumbs can be stressful to muscles and ligaments, particularly in the hands and wrist area. Using PDAs may also involve gripping a tiny stylus to mark on a display.
Has anyone completed an RA for these wonderful devices or isn't there a need for them do you think?
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Personally I would advise that a risk assessment is not necessary. Does the use of a smartpone pose a significant risk of a RSI, probabely not. Does your organisation have a risk assessment for the use of a pencil or pen.
Your employer is looking to cover his back from a litigation point of view but is only wasting time and money conducting a useless risk assessment wich will be nothing more than a paper work exercise.
Your time and effort would be better put to use dealing with real HS&E risk.
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Your boss may well have had a valid concern if people were employed to sit around all day pressing tiny keys on the pads or using slim sylus etc. as their job. However in this case, I suspect the frequency and duration of such tasks would fall well outside the scope of requiring a risk assessment unless some realistic reason is given as to why there may be significant risk.
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We cannot justify the indefensible by a process of risk assessment. To set out to use these devices as a routine method of communication is one thing, to expect people to be routinely composing complex replies entirely another matter.
If someone has sent me an e-mail (any e-mail) I assume the matter isn't that urgent. If it was urgent, they should have phoned me. Similarly, if I've a lot to say to someone, I'll speak to them. If something in a work context reallly, really needs a formal written reply then e-mail isn't going to cut it with me.
The employer's realistic expectations of use of these things should be clearly stated and communicated to all. We had a similar thread here a few weeks back. Some self-employed consultants had slightly different pov to mine regarding use, but I guess we'd all baulk at applying "risk assessment" to the task!
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Personally, I would be more concerned about the "distraction factor" in using such devices and undertaking other tasks!
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A lot surely depends on how long and over what periods people use such devices. To echo Jay's response, consideration should be given to their distraction factor. Some people are seriously addicted to the devices and somehow think they are immune from harm as they walk along pavements, across roads and even drive while using them.
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There was a similar discussion a few weeks back about whether smart phones came under the DSE Regs and whether a RA would be needed. The general consensus was that they do not. I could imagine constant use of small controls would bring about RSI problems. However, most people use phones infrequently and for sending short messages. Unlike laptops where some people use them instead of a desk based PC, which they are not suited for unless they have a docking station or similar set up.
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Should the RA not have come first as part of the selection process, specifying what information, instruction and training would be required on roll out etc Have a look at; www.londonchamber.co.uk/docimages/1387.pdf
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Useful Link Alistair. Thanks for posting.
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With such kit I think that we are falling into the same trap of; fire arms, radiation, asbestos, electricity and hands--free kit when they were first used in the public domain and we all know what happened there e.g. All brought about death and human suffering - most of which are still killing people today
Personally using such kit as a day to day situation is a no no for me and ergonomically such kit cannot be good for many jobs/people as we are just not designed by nature to work that way and youngsters especially [& many oldies] are using such kit on an almost permanent basis so we are stocking up problems for tomorrow
Driving: Most people have not read the highway code recently so I suggest U do as its requested to turn off your mobile not to rest it in a hands--free pod so such kit is no use there!
You need to really evaluate just what such kit is to be used for /what the job needs are and then get the best that is ergonomically suited to a person noting that if I was given no choice then I would not use such kit in any situation apart from emergencies where such kit is fabulous - I am not saying that such kit is no good as it is very good
All I am saying is the we chose the right kit for the right circumstance instead of following fashion ---which is what it is in many cases and yep I have facilitated in risk assessments re the use of pencils; but U need to know the circumstances to understand the situation
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Thanks for this information, I was going to take the stance that an RA specific for this was not required. The use of mobile devices is in the RA for driving in anycase and otherwise staff will not be using their devices for any long periods of time and I take the line that it is good to talk to someone than send e-mails and texts about the place. Cheers once again Bob
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