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IanDakin  
#1 Posted : 17 December 2011 09:05:53(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi As a safety device, a maintenance team have welded a trestle of steel tubes in case of failure of parking legs. I need to get a SWL marked onto these and the companies I have contacted to do this have not responded. Does anyone know a company that could do this, or if there is another way a SWL could be calculated? Ian
boblewis  
#2 Posted : 17 December 2011 21:06:58(UTC)
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boblewis

It is possible for a mechanical design engineer to calculate a maximum load hence a SWL given all the material specification and scale drawings. It is better to work the other way round though.
alistair.r.reid  
#3 Posted : 18 December 2011 12:40:26(UTC)
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alistair.r.reid

From an engineers perspective I would have thought the process should have been ascertain the required capacity, have the item designed taking this into account and to provide sufficient strength and stability and then have them manufactured in accordance with the design. Markings could then be applied accordingly. Retrospective marking is likely to be applied by load testing the item and many lifting equipment suppliers will provide this service.
boblewis  
#4 Posted : 18 December 2011 13:09:59(UTC)
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boblewis

Mere proof loading is I think really insufficient as you can only work out the SWL once you have achieved a failure load and work backwards using a factor of safety. Also it may be that the load stated/achieved may only be achievable for a short number of cycles o work fatigue Bob
IanDakin  
#5 Posted : 20 December 2011 11:22:58(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi Thanks for your replies. Unfortunately I inherited these devices, made in house. I have had problems getting a reply from lifting equipment suppliers (telephone, email and contact via website). Some good stuff for me to bear in mind. Bob, he tressle will only be used the once, as it is a leg failure safety device. Ian
boblewis  
#6 Posted : 20 December 2011 22:27:36(UTC)
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boblewis

Even more important then to get a design calculated, specified and fully drawn for future use Bob
HSSnail  
#7 Posted : 21 December 2011 08:55:24(UTC)
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HSSnail

Ian I commend your maintenance departments ingenuity but it sound as if you are unsure if the faith they put in this devise may be unfounded. I would have thought to have the tests etc others have described here for a 1 off bit of kit may be a bit expensive. Have you considered purchasing axle stands that come with all the required checks undertaken? Quicker option and possibly cheaper in the long run?
IanDakin  
#8 Posted : 21 December 2011 17:49:14(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi Brian I do trust the Maintenance Department, but I would still like someway of backing this trust up, as I want them to be inspected by our insurers. My problem has been getting a contractor to reply! I looked at trailer jacks and they are a lot more, they are based on a single foot (not much use if a PPT is in the corner) and you have to go under the trailer to fit it. Thanks Ian
Phillips20760  
#9 Posted : 22 December 2011 09:11:30(UTC)
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Phillips20760

Hi, Its not actually all that unusual for the need for engineers to need to produce bespoke supports. A lot of companies can produce a SWL for you through simple calculations and without the need for destructive testing. I have used CCS and Northern Jacks in the past. What part of the country are you in?
Phillips20760  
#10 Posted : 22 December 2011 09:12:44(UTC)
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Phillips20760

P.S. if you're still struggling can you not use axle stands, one either side, which should already have a SWL on them..?
IanDakin  
#11 Posted : 22 December 2011 18:09:35(UTC)
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IanDakin

Thanks Phil. Looks like I might have a SWL coming through from a description and photograph sent out. If this does not happen then I will try your two recommendations. Ian
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