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Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#1 Posted : 19 December 2011 15:20:02(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Hi
Friday the office party will be in full swing so won't have time to watch the posts ....
Just received the below from a well known supplier of certain equipment, any wizards out there wishing to show how its NOT done?

I received this the other day and thought I’d share it with you for a bit of Christmas cheer – As safety professionals, we have to be able to joke about it too!
Jingle Bells
Dashing through the snow
In a one horse open sleigh
O'er the fields we go
Laughing all the way

A risk assessment must be submitted before an open sleigh is considered safe for persons to travel on. The risk assessment must also consider whether it is appropriate to use only one horse for such a venture, particularly if passengers are of larger proportions.
Chestnuts Roasting
Chestnuts roasting on an open fire,
Jack Frost nipping on your nose,
Yuletide carols being sung by a choir,
And folks dressed up like Eskimos.

An open fire?? Goodness no. Unless this is fully guarded, checked daily and never by-passed....remember your extinguisher awareness training, it may come in handy here.
As for Jack Frost nipping on your nose....If only you had used your PPE as instructed.
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
Rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer
had a very shiny nose.
And if you ever saw him,
you would even say it glows.

You are advised that under the “Equal Opportunities for All” policy, it is inappropriate for persons to make comment with regard to the ruddiness of any part of Mr R. Reindeer. Further to this, exclusion of Mr R Reindeer from the Reindeer Games will be considered discriminatory and disciplinary action will be taken against those found guilty of this offence.

After all that, I'd like to say thank you to everyone who has helped me through the year and to wish you all a Merry Christmas!


Regards,

Badger
Jeni D  
#2 Posted : 19 December 2011 15:37:10(UTC)
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Jeni D

Barrie(Badger)Etter wrote:
The risk assessment must also consider whether it is appropriate to use only one horse for such a venture, particularly if passengers are of larger proportions.


Just in case anyone needs to know - As a general rule of thumb a draught horse can pull about two and a half times its own body weight. So, if your average Shire weight about 900Kg, you should be good for about 2 tons.
Guru  
#3 Posted : 19 December 2011 15:42:37(UTC)
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Guru

Too big to copy and paste, so heres the link:

Santa Claus: Ergonomic Risk Assessment

http://www.system-concep...mic-risk-assessment.html

walker  
#4 Posted : 19 December 2011 16:03:21(UTC)
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walker

Well seeing that Monday is the new Friday here is my offering:

From me ("the wisher") to you ("hereinafter called the wishee"), please accept without obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, politically correct, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all and a financially successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2012, but with due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures or sects, and having regard to the race, creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform or dietary preference of the wishee.

By accepting this greeting you are bound by these terms that:

• This greeting is subject to further clarification or withdrawal
• This greeting is freely transferable provided that no alteration shall be made to the original greeting and that the proprietary rights of the wisher are acknowledged.
• This greeting implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes.
• This greeting may not be enforceable in certain jurisdictions and/or the restrictions herein may not be binding upon certain wishes in certain jurisdictions and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher.
• This greeting is warranted to perform as reasonably may be expected within the usual application of good tidings, for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first.
• The wisher warrants this greeting only for the limited replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher
• Any references in this greeting to "the Lord", "Father Christmas", "Our Saviour", or any other festive figures, whether actual or fictitious, dead or alive, shall not imply any endorsement by or from them in respect of this greeting, and all proprietary rights in any referenced third party names and images are hereby acknowledged.
Sharpe23621  
#5 Posted : 19 December 2011 16:07:41(UTC)
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Sharpe23621

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but....
Given this statistical analysis - do we actually believe in him?

Children visited

There are roughly 2 billion children worldwide. However, assuming Santa doesn't visit the children of Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, atheist and so on parents, that leaves the 35 per cent or thereabouts whose parents consider themselves Christian. That's still an impressive 700,000,000 children in a night. Assuming three children per household, that's 233,000,000 stops for Santa and his sleigh. There may be a few households where all the children have been naughty, but we are going to discount them for statistical purposes.

Distance travelled

If we assume that the 233,000,000 good Christian households are distributed evenly around the world , and the planet's surface area is 510,000,000km (and for the sake of simple calculations we are going to treat the Earth as a square map, rather than a globe), then each stop between households will be around 1.47km (0.91 miles) apart. Santa will therefore have to travel a total of 342,510,000km (212,030,000 miles).

Speed of sleigh

If he's clever about it, and travels from east to west with the Sun, maximising his available night-time, Santa has about 32 hours to work with (assuming children sleep for eight hours, he has 24 hours plus those eight to finish). Travelling 342,510,000km in 32 hours equates to a speed of 10,703,437.5km/hr (6,650,807.72mph), or a little under 1,800 miles per second, assuming he takes no time actually to deliver the presents or stop for any comfort breaks. The fastest-moving man-made object in history, the space probe Voyager 1, manages a rather less impressive 10.8 miles per second.

Number of calories consumed

Assuming one mince pie (250kcal for the Co-operative Own Brand in the author's cupboard) and one 50ml glass of sherry per household (58kcal, according to weightlossresources.co.uk) we have 308 calories times 233,000,000 households, or 71,764,000,000 calories total. The recommended daily allowance for an adult male, according to the Department of Health, is 2,550kcal. Santa will therefore eat 28,142,745.1 times his daily dues. If Santa is a 300lb (21 stone) man (not an unreasonable assumption) he will have to walk more than 450 million miles at three miles an hour to burn off his night's excesses.

Amount of alcohol consumed

The aforementioned 50ml glass of sherry works out at around one unit of alcohol, according to the UK definition. So Santa would be expected to knock back 233,000,000 units over the course of the evening. The daily recommended maximum for a man is four units, meaning that Santa is endangering his health by drinking 58,250,000 times the DoH limits. Worse, he is likely to be in no fit state to drive his sleigh. The legal blood alcohol limit is 80mg per 100mls of blood, or roughly four units (although this of course would be less for a big man). So Santa would also be at least 50 million times the legal driving limit as well, and would probably have his licence revoked.

Weight of gifts carried

Assuming each child gets the Transformer Optimus Prime, the leader of the Autobots, for a present, in his box, Santa will be carting 659g (1.45lb) per child. That's 461,300 metric tonnes, or about the same in imperial tons, total. For comparison, a Boeing 747-8I airliner can carry 237.5 tonnes in passengers, luggage and fuel.

Cost of gifts

Optimus Prime is worth £42.99 new. Santa will therefore have to spend a grand total of £30,093,000,000 to provide each child with one, or risk arrest by having his elves make illegal copies. This is the equivalent of the gross domestic product of Costa Rica.

Number of reindeer required

Assuming reindeer are capable of pulling around 150kg (330lb) each, and that the sleigh itself weighs nothing, then Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Dunder and Blixen will need to hire some help, to the tune of a further three million reindeer, to drag the 461,300-tonne present payload. The percentage of those reindeer required to have red noses is not known. They have a further problem of teaching the new recruits to fly at hypersonic speeds, but they can cross that bridge when they come to it.

Amount of energy required to drag the sleigh

Assuming that each reindeer is an adult male weighing 600lb (272kg), then the three million required to pull the sleigh will add up to 816,000 tonnes to add to the 416,300 tonnes of toys. To get that up to a speed of 6,650,807.72mph would require around 700 quintillion joules of energy, or the equivalent of 210,000,000,000,000,000 kettles boiling. This assumes that Santa is travelling above the atmosphere, to avoid drag from the air. Of course, when the sleigh descends again into the atmosphere, it, Santa, all the reindeer, and all the presents will immediately be vaporised in the incredible heat of re-entry, thus rendering the whole exercise somewhat pointless.

Guru  
#6 Posted : 19 December 2011 16:14:14(UTC)
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Guru

So Sharpe, what you saying here? Santa aint real?
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#7 Posted : 19 December 2011 16:51:56(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Anyone seen the movie Arthur Chrismas will know the modern Santa delivers using a Star trek type space ship travelling at warp factors and is the size of a large village. As present deliveries are by multiple elves, and a village is done in one hit then time take is reduce and previously thought speeds consequently reduced. Reindeer are optional.

Badger
Graham Bullough  
#8 Posted : 20 December 2011 00:47:17(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

My parents took me as young child for two or three years running to see Father Christmas in his grotto in a fairly posh department store in Manchester. After that I was taken to see him in a less posh store in Stockport. As I had a nagging thought that the real one was actually still at the store in Manchester I concluded that the one seen in Stockport was actually a fake - and then started to have doubts about the one I'd seen in Manchester and also others advertised at other locations - and have sadly remained sceptical !!! :-(
SP900308  
#9 Posted : 20 December 2011 07:45:05(UTC)
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SP900308

Sharpe,

Along with your comprehensive doubt, we haven't even got a chimney!
Jane Blunt  
#10 Posted : 20 December 2011 08:00:22(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

Graham Bullough wrote:
My parents took me as young child for two or three years running to see Father Christmas in his grotto in a fairly posh department store in Manchester. After that I was taken to see him in a less posh store in Stockport. As I had a nagging thought that the real one was actually still at the store in Manchester I concluded that the one seen in Stockport was actually a fake - and then started to have doubts about the one I'd seen in Manchester and also others advertised at other locations - and have sadly remained sceptical !!! :-(


Unfortunately, at the age of five, I noticed that one Santa had brown eyes and another had blue eyes. I knew from then on that it was only pretend.
Sharpe23621  
#11 Posted : 20 December 2011 08:04:41(UTC)
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Sharpe23621

And with all that eating and drinking on route, he wouldn't need a chimney, Santas weight would demolish the whole roof. A drunken overweight and inebriated bloke landing on roofs with no harness either, which poor elf gets to do that risk assessment!
walker  
#12 Posted : 20 December 2011 08:07:45(UTC)
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walker

AND all these cynical children grew up to be members of the H&S gestapo ;-)
Terry556  
#13 Posted : 20 December 2011 08:54:26(UTC)
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Terry556

We must remember the elf's, in the workshops assessments on hand tools (HAVS) , working time directive, etc
SP900308  
#14 Posted : 20 December 2011 09:25:26(UTC)
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SP900308

Terry,

Are they not based in Lapland then?
Terry556  
#15 Posted : 20 December 2011 09:34:48(UTC)
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Terry556

Lapland, haven't you seen santa clause the movie
Graham Bullough  
#16 Posted : 20 December 2011 10:43:54(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

In view of his alleged unsupervised access to countless numbers of children, dare one ask if Santa has received enhanced CRB clearance for his visits in the UK?!!!
Me  
#17 Posted : 20 December 2011 10:57:44(UTC)
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Me

personally, I think it's weird that we encourage children to believe that a complete stranger is allowed to enter our homes through a chimney that most people no longer have and leave presents. The remaining 364 days of the year we would never countenance it! If you live in a block of flats what do you tell your children - how does santa get in, does he smash a window? Can't wait till my kids are old enough to tell them it's all a big lie and i'm very sorry for being such a good liar. how on earth will they ever trust me again?

Happy Christmas!!
kdrum  
#18 Posted : 20 December 2011 11:04:28(UTC)
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kdrum

Don't be so silly me - if you have no chimney you leave out the 'magic key'. How else would Santa gain access!!
Nikki-Napo  
#19 Posted : 20 December 2011 11:06:35(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

What a brilliant thread.
SP900308  
#20 Posted : 20 December 2011 11:11:40(UTC)
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SP900308

The magic key - is that the one the Cops use around 6 in the morning?
pete48  
#21 Posted : 20 December 2011 11:18:08(UTC)
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pete48

I have checked Santa's CRB registration. His number is 2412/2512. I am also very disappointed that my colleagues have such little faith in such an eminent person. The joy he has brought to millions of children is immeasurable to say nothing of his impact on the global economy since even before we knew we had a global economy!
Why even the CERN project is beginning to find 'indications' that travel faster than the speed of light is possible and something called a Higgs Boson has now been indicated. I am not exactly sure what that is but it sounds suspiciously like the name of a magical reindeer to me!

Just wait and see, science will eventually prove that Santa does exist;-)

p48
Me  
#22 Posted : 20 December 2011 11:25:19(UTC)
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Me

hi Pete48, very glad santa has passed his CRB. How about a breath test? He must drink gallons of whisky, wine, sherry, you name it in quick succession (considering how quickly he moves round the earth). surprised his liver has lasted these centuries.... :)
Graham Bullough  
#23 Posted : 20 December 2011 12:32:14(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Though responder me at #22 suggests that Santa has been around for centuries, I saw something on TV the other night which suggested that the current concept of Santa Claus entering households via chimneys (or using magic keys in the case of dwellings without chimneys) to bring presents to children only began during late Victorian times. Thus, on the basis of some 130 trips once a year since about 1880 hasn't Santa's liver had ample time to recover after each trip? Also, as regards breath tests, perhaps he's been very sensible about the alcohol he consumes during each trip and therefore gets either one of his elves or even a contractor to drive the sleigh!

Following on from my earlier response, I guess that I probably admitted my developing scepticism about Santa to my mother who eventually responded by telling me that he was a pretend character. Even so, she added that my younger brother didn't know this and therefore I had to promise not to tell him and thereby spoil the illusion. In addition to feeling slightly chuffed that I had been entrusted with a secret which my brother didn't know, the information also helped to explain why parents generally seemed to go along with the custom of providing a glass of alcohol and a mince pie for Santa!

Also, full marks to Jane Blunt for being observant and noticing different eye colours when she met 'Santa'. My scepticism probably took longer to develop, so perhaps I was a dozy child in those days - Some people who know me might suggest I'm still dozy at times! ;-)
pete48  
#24 Posted : 20 December 2011 16:03:48(UTC)
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pete48

Now now. Time is a relative concept. Therefore if and when certain people first became aware of his presence must also be a relative concept.
As to the consumption of alcohol we must remember that Santa is a magical figure and may well not respond to alcohol in the same way as you and me. In fact I have it on good authority from my contacts at the HSE (that is the How Santa Exists unit) that a large whisky is equivalent to a good strong cup of tea for Santa. Thus the H&S sector needs to take care when making assumptions that may lead to an over estimation of the risk and in the process lose any sense of reality that they may have had.

You know it is only common sense ;-)

p48







Graham Bullough  
#25 Posted : 20 December 2011 16:40:52(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Barrie - a word of warning and an aside from your topic: If you've only just popped out of semi-hibernation to enjoy Christmas, you might not know that the UK Government (via DEFRA) has recently announced that it plans to have a pilot cull of badgers in a designated part of the UK next summer as a measure to try and reduce the incidence of bovine TB. Therefore, here's hoping that you don't reside in the pilot cull area and furthermore are not a carrier. However, on a more positive note, there have also been reports that a vaccine for bovine TB is being developed and will be trialled next year.

Though some of the above comments were written in fun, I hope that they don't offend anyone, especially anyone who has links with farmers who have lost cattle through bovine TB or whose cattle are at significant risk. The rest of us as UK taxpayers are also affected, albeit indirectly in terms of the government compensation payments for cattle which have to be destroyed if found to be infected. The total annual cost of such payments was quoted recently on BBC TV's "Countryfile" programme. It was enormous though I forget the actual figure.
NickH  
#26 Posted : 20 December 2011 16:50:12(UTC)
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NickH

Pete - I sincerely hope Santa also has a magical bladder. Consuming 233,000,000 glasses of whisk(e)y/ sherry/ beer (even if only at a strength of a cup of tea per glass) would otherwise mean either a 'lot' of comfort breaks, or a frequently used in-flight toilet (portaloo?)

Emptying said toilet could lead to a considerable number of blocks of ice falling from the sky....
stuie  
#27 Posted : 20 December 2011 18:57:39(UTC)
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stuie

You are all comparing him to humans - the man is pure unadulterated MAGIC and is not bound by our human constraints.
pete48  
#28 Posted : 21 December 2011 10:14:24(UTC)
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pete48

As regards to welfare facilities for Santa. Clearly he is both a lone worker and a peripatetic worker. Thus arrangements for his welfare include use of third party facilities and adequate time to locate such is built into his schedule. He completes dynamic risk assessments based on his timeless experience and relevant to locally identified hazards and subject to the jurisdiction in which the visits are being completed. Thus the HSE (How Santa Exists unit) has to maintain a working knowledge of all H&S laws and regulations across the world, magical indeed!

I have also confirmed this morning that his safety plan for the annual flight has been accepted by NORAD and those who may be interested can check the detail and track progress at this website http://www.noradsanta.org/en/

Now do you believe in Santa?
Have a Merry Xmas

p48
Safety Smurf  
#29 Posted : 21 December 2011 10:19:38(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Jane Blunt wrote:
Unfortunately, at the age of five, I noticed that one Santa had brown eyes and another had blue eyes. I knew from then on that it was only pretend.


Hang On!..My eyes change colour!...Does this mean I'm not real?
Paul Duell  
#30 Posted : 21 December 2011 10:35:36(UTC)
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Paul Duell

Sorry to disappoint you all, but the REAL Santa was driving the number 18 bus that took me home from the station last night.

Sorry Jane, I didn't check his eye colour.
TDS1984  
#31 Posted : 21 December 2011 16:25:12(UTC)
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TDS1984

A couple of weeks back we had a party of approximately 20 Santas in, surely one of them must have been the real deal? ;)
chris.packham  
#32 Posted : 21 December 2011 16:46:32(UTC)
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chris.packham

TDS1984

Have you never heard of TCS (Transient cloning syndrome)? Temporarily there are thousands of real Santas, just for the few hours on Christmas night. Before dawn they all revert to just the one! This also explains how all those toys can be delivered in such a short time.
MB1  
#33 Posted : 21 December 2011 17:04:11(UTC)
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MB1

Apparently my wife wants me to be involved in some cloning syndrome for her nursing home!

Chris is there a WEL for applying a white beard?
Graham Bullough  
#34 Posted : 21 December 2011 17:08:39(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

I was planning to add some wishes to the thread started on 9th Dec about what forums users would like Santa to bring. However, when I found it today in near oblivion on page 5, it transpires that it was locked around 12th Dec. Therefore, as this thread involves Santa, it seems appropriate to add my wishes in this response. Before I go any further, I'd better renounce all of my earlier scepticism in this thread about Santa's existence if there's much hope of him granting my wishes!

For starters, I wish that more people would use and demonstrate commonsense, i.e. make it more common than it actually is. This includes a better understanding of 'reasonably practicable' within and beyond the realms of OS&H.

Another wish is that all forum users and members of the OS&H community have a pleasant and relaxing Christmas and New Year holiday period, and that those who have to work during the period for good reasons don't feel too left out.

On a somewhat selfish note, I hope the weather in the Lake District over Christmas will be reasonable. My wife and I usually go there at Christmas to enjoy some fellwalking as it's great to get some fresh air and exercise, develop a good appetite and also disperse the mental cobwebs. We had snow and rather too much ice last Christmas, but the forecasts for this year suggest that the weather will be mild and damp. Even so, that's preferable by comparison with the continuous torrential rain and floods which kept us off the fells over Christmas 2003.

Cheers

Graham
BigRab  
#35 Posted : 21 December 2011 19:15:44(UTC)
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BigRab

Sharpe23621 wrote:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but....
Given this statistical analysis - do we actually believe in him?

Children visited

There are roughly 2 billion children worldwide. However, assuming Santa doesn't visit the children of Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, atheist and so on parents, that leaves the 35 per cent or thereabouts whose parents consider themselves Christian.




I know this is meant to be a lighthearted post and good value at that. However I would point out that Santa Claus is not specifically Christian, and has little to do with the Feast of the Nativity, having been largely invented by the retail industry for their nefarious purposes.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#36 Posted : 22 December 2011 12:14:28(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

quote=Graham Bullough]Barrie - a word of warning and an aside from your topic: If you've only just popped out of semi-hibernation to enjoy Christmas, you might not know that the UK Government (via DEFRA) has recently announced that it plans to have a pilot cull of badgers in a designated part of the UK next summer as a measure to try and reduce the incidence of bovine TB. Therefore, here's hoping that you don't reside in the pilot cull area and furthermore are not a carrier. However, on a more positive note, there have also been reports that a vaccine for bovine TB is being developed and will be trialled next year. .


Graham,
Fear not, I've had the jab and Mrs B won't anyone near me to be culled ...not yet anyway =O}}} As for the weather I'm hoping for a heavy snow fall on the night of the 25th so I can stay in hibernation and not be dragged 300 miles south just for a 5 mile hike which Mrs.B insists doing every year.


As the originator of the thread and wildlife has been raised what would the members consider themselves, I've already declared myself ... Badger ... for persistence and digging things out. What animal would you describe yourself as.
tabs  
#37 Posted : 22 December 2011 12:26:01(UTC)
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tabs

If Santa ain't real, how do you explain that lump of coal I get each year?
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#38 Posted : 23 December 2011 11:22:20(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

quote=tabs]If Santa ain't real, how do you explain that lump of coal I get each year?


On Christmas Eve, the legend goes, Santa Claus travels the globe leaving presents for good little boys and girls, under their Christmas trees and in their ornamental fireplace-hung stockings. Bad children, continues the tradition, do not receive gifts; instead, they get lumps of coal in their stockings. After all, Santa knows all -- who's naughty, who's nice -- and can act accordingly. But it's a big job, even with an army of North Pole elves at one's disposal, so in the Alpine regions of central Europe, he enlists help.
A goat-man creature bound to service by the Devil, Krampus' origins trace back to Germanic traditions from before the advent of Christianity. Per the myth, Krampus goes from home to home (in some places, along with St. Nick), seeking naughty children. Some get off with a stern warning, but for the truly bad children, you better watch out. Krampus throws these children into his sack (or, in some traditions, into a washtub he drags behind him) and carries the child off, to be made into Christmas dinner.

Been rotten this year? No need to get nervous on Christmas Eve; if you've made it that far, you are in the clear. Krampus makes the rounds on the night of December 5th, being the eve of the feast of St. Nicholas. As is customary, many people dress up in Krampus costumes that night (a bit like the devil) and take to the streets that night, going home to home "scaring" children. The custom further suggests giving these false Krampuses a drink (schnapps is recommended) to make them go away.

Or just be good, for goodness' sake.


So tabs, what mischief have you been upto?

Badger
Graham Bullough  
#39 Posted : 28 December 2011 11:40:22(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Barrie - Good to know from your response at #36 that you are safe through protection from Mrs B and having had the jab. I guess it might not be easy for you to go back to hibernating in view of the mild temperatures prevailing in the UK.

You also asked fellow forum users if they could think of suitable creatures to compare themselves as you have done. After a bit of thought over the holiday period, I reckon I'd need a multi-hybrid creature which includes the following: squirrel (acquires and hoards mental and physical information about OS&H and numerous other subjects - and sometimes can't find it again, just as squirrels can't always remember where they've buried their nuts.), sloth (i.e. lazy according to my Mrs B when it comes to tidiness and doing household chores - surely carpets don't really need hoovering until one can see footprints in the dust on them?!!!!!), a bit of badger and also ferret (persistence and digging during OS&H-related investigations) and, er, boar (probably bores most people with my offerings on this forum!!) :-)
David Bannister  
#40 Posted : 28 December 2011 13:34:56(UTC)
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David Bannister

Quite a few meerkats on here: annoyingly persistent purveyors of rubbish (and that's not aimed at any individual in particular, just those to whom it applies, probably also me on some occasions).

This is likely to be the last posting as stuff4blokes as I have asked for a name change after deciding to "come out".

Have a really great, healthy and safe New Year.

David
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