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Betta Spenden  
#1 Posted : 06 January 2012 10:30:06(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Yellow. Anyone out there know of any examples/case studies etc of fires in schools please. Muchos grassyus
chas  
#2 Posted : 06 January 2012 10:43:45(UTC)
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chas

Have a look at the West Midlands Arson Task Force document called Keep your school in business (your local fire authority may have something similar). Whilst is is mainly about fire risk assessment you may find some useful info about arson prevention, stats etc there. See link below.... http://www.wmfs.net/atf/kysib.jsp
Betta Spenden  
#3 Posted : 06 January 2012 11:49:09(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Thanks Chas, you are a gentleman. I had already got that and all the stats, but many thanks all the same. Its case studies etc I'm after. Incidents where sadly the little ones didnt get out or when adults went in and didnt come out, with reasons why. I seem to remember one on the IOM and maybe one in Holland or Demark
Betta Spenden  
#4 Posted : 06 January 2012 11:49:53(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Denmark even.
stevie40  
#5 Posted : 06 January 2012 12:12:00(UTC)
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stevie40

Have you seen this document? www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05070.pdf No fatalities between 96 and 06.
Safety Smurf  
#6 Posted : 06 January 2012 12:13:03(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

I can remember a case being cited during my fire cert regarding a primary school fire. Heavy fire damage to the building because the teachers didn't know how to use the extinguishers, apparently some were badly bent and buckled where someone had tried to activate them by banging them on the ground, others had the handles bent over where someone had tried to squeeze them without removing the pin. I'm afraid I can't remember anymore detail than that.
Betta Spenden  
#7 Posted : 07 January 2012 13:18:10(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Thanks Stevie. An interesting document. Smurf, thanks also. I am with you on that, something is there at the back of my mind but I cannot remember it. I also remember being told a story (during my "prison fire officer course") about a school where the teacher took the nursery class out the back door and could not let anyone know that they were safe. Parents apparently then went into the fire via the front door and.....
gramsay  
#8 Posted : 07 January 2012 16:14:03(UTC)
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gramsay

Hi Betta, Not sure if you're after info on minor issues that were dealt with without injury or damage, but I've recent experience of a number of them. I've looked at small fires in three school kitchens recently. In two of the cases the people in charge had recently been on awareness / prevention courses and acted swiftly, using the correct equipment in the correct way to extinguish the fires. Both commented on the confidence the training had given them to take control and make the right decision (including feeling competent to decide whether or not to tackle the fire). The other common issue was refreshing people's awareness of sounding the fire alarms in even minor, apparently controllable, cases such as these. The lessons from all these have been included in updated awareness training. Good luck!
firesafety101  
#9 Posted : 07 January 2012 18:38:23(UTC)
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firesafety101

Safety Smurf wrote:
I can remember a case being cited during my fire cert regarding a primary school fire. Heavy fire damage to the building because the teachers didn't know how to use the extinguishers, apparently some were badly bent and buckled where someone had tried to activate them by banging them on the ground, others had the handles bent over where someone had tried to squeeze them without removing the pin. I'm afraid I can't remember anymore detail than that.
There were one or more fire extinguishers with the operating plunger at the bottom. They were operated by banging the base of the extinguisher onto the floor. Just shows - if all else fails read the instructions.
Safety Smurf  
#10 Posted : 08 January 2012 15:36:20(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Firesafety101 wrote:
There were one or more fire extinguishers with the operating plunger at the bottom. They were operated by banging the base of the extinguisher onto the floor. Just shows - if all else fails read the instructions.
I believe that was the cause of the heavy denting, they didn't know that the current extinguishers weren't operated like that anymore.
Ron Hunter  
#11 Posted : 09 January 2012 13:10:23(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Betta Spenden  
#12 Posted : 10 January 2012 08:01:26(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

ron hunter wrote:
http://www.arsonpreventionbureau.org.uk/saveddocument/EducationUnderThreat%20A4.pdf
Thanks Ron.
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