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The age old problem of recruiting fire wardens has effected a customer of mine. Due to redundancies and staff moves, the fire warden distribution across this large site has been wrecked and there are simply not enough fire wardens for the large size of the premises.
Now work is substantially picking up again with a huge order, but the firm are reluctant to take on staff. Meanwhile, their disgruntled staff, who are working twice as hard & with a pay cut, are being asked to become fire wardens. You can guess thei answer !! (& who can blame them)
There's no cash to pay them a retainer, or give them an extra days holiday - so how do I motivate them? The boss is thinking of picking key staff and just telling them that they will go on my course!! In fairness, he must appoint persons to assist him, so he may have a point
Any ideas, as I may end up delivering this training in a stab vest :)
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Sorry I cant help, its down to the directors to come up with a plan to motivate the staff, years ago employees used to volunteer for first aiders, and fire wardens, these days its down to money, we pay £100 PA for first aiders, we don't pay fire wardens or the safety champions, but I can see the company paying them the same as first aiders, in the future, as the employees want the financial reward for taking on other responsibilities
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Fire Wardens are almost always 'volunteers'. If there are no 'volunteers, then the Manager can appoint first line management staff such as Supervisors/Foreman/Team Leaders to become Wardens and include it as part of their duties.
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In the broadest sense the whole team should be Fire Wardens. For those that know and understand how disastrous a fire can be you will understand that the more people know how to react the better.
Fire Warden training should also be directly linked to your Fire Risk assessment. This should have been amended if numbers dramatically decrease, so should the duties of the warden
Why a Fire Duty Warden would want more pay is beyond me, typical of the world we live in.
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Messy - is this fire wardens in the traditional sense of people whose duties don't start until there's an evacuation or is it something more - i.e. with further fire safety responsibilities.
Tony - having worked in manufacturing myself and experienced the "take a pay cut but have more responsibility" situation, I can understand exactly where the wardens are coming from in wanting more money!
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I used to go along the same lines as Saferay when volunteers where not forthcoming.
Safety is management responsibilty and this can be made part of supervisor role. As SHE manager/advisor i have even directed a senior manager to be fire warden as no volunteers forthcoming, as you may guess "volunteers" soon came forward.
Another way to rsie interest is chat with your local Fire station see if they will come in and doa bit of promoting, amazing how many get an interest as they chat with the boys/girls in uniform.
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I agree, my default position is to start with the senior manager as a fire warden and work backwards, if they can find a volunteer so be it. I have seen deputy directors wearing hi-vis vests, checking the premises on the way out, which is nice.....
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Heather Collins wrote:Messy - is this fire wardens in the traditional sense of people whose duties don't start until there's an evacuation or is it something more - i.e. with further fire safety responsibilities.
The fire wardens role is 99% in conducting the evacuation sweep of a very large & complex premises, after which, 1 from each zone reports to a fire warden coordinator. There has to be some over provision of fire wardens as in addition to covering leave, training & sickness - many fire wardens move other sites from time to time as part of their job, so are not available. However, making everyone wardens (as suggested earlier) would be cost prohibitive and simply wouldn't work as you simply cant have 100s of staff conducting an evac sweep simultaneously :-) This is partly a motivational issue. Many have seen their friends & family laid off by this employer recently. All have had massive pension changes & other employment condition changes forced upon them, so I fully understand why they've got the hump! Also, 1st aiders receive additional leave, but fire wardens don't ("and will never be paid" - was told today). Lastly, senior management have 'no appetite' to alter contracts to include fire warden duties to certain posts. It's the latter point I am working on, writing a report reminding the board of directors of their legal standing if it all goes wrong. In the meantime, if anyone knows how to lead a disgruntled workforce to water and persuade them to drink it - I'd appreciate a few ideas!
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