Hands only CPR by Vinnie Jones ! http://www.dailymail.co....lassic-Stayin-Alive.html

There's even an App!!! http://www.bhf.org.uk/he...ills/hands-only-cpr.aspx

I read about this earlier on the BBC news website. Personally, I think it is an excellent initiative. Th einfomercial doe sindeed put out a powerful statement - hopefully it will spur more people into action should they find themselves confronted with someone in cardiac arrest.

Kind of agree - but in my opinion a trained person should still offer rescue breaths when appropriate (some circumstances make it a no go such as damaged face etc) I have attempted to resuscitate a child where there was absolutely no physical way to give rescue breaths (we used an oxygen tube into her airway???!!??? (you do what you have to do) Rescue breaths also help to ensure an open airway. Chest compressions create a bellows effect and suck air into the lung and this can provide fresh oxygen. It's better still use a bag and mask to get a higher oxygen content or even better to use oxygen! I am a bit worried this advert will encourage people who are trained to stop giving rescue breaths, but on the whole think it's a very good drive. We live in a society where too many people just walk by! If you look at the bhf website they clearly state that this guidance is for NON trained persons! And lets not forget trained medical staff do it differently again!

Be aware that the reason for this change in recommendation is that enthusiastic amateurs tend to do the mouth-to-mouth or mouth-to-nose respirations incorrectly, as noted above, and that it distracts from the delivery of effective chest compressions. For those who are properly skilled in resuscitation technique, with adequate manpower and the correct equipment items, respirations can be invaluable part of the resuscitation procedure. Infection risks and the possibility of exposure to blood, saliva, vomitus etc make a bag and mask invaluable. For 'community' use, a clean handkerchief had been recommended but that is inadequate. Several years ago, I published the results of studies of what then was a new and novel disposable face shield. Those face shields are now in very wide use and offer protection to the rescuer, and to the victim (!). Devices of this type, a bag and mask, or possibly a handkerchief or direct contact for those that feel comfortable about this, can continue to be used but in every case should not detract from the delivery of effective chest compressions.

Having shown this to a number of the Safety rep's in my workplace the overall opinion is very good. I was a little uncertain about whether it would be too 'jokey' but to my eyes the pitch is spot on. Good work to the BHF.

I do annual CPR Training and refreshers for Electical staff. One of the problems with not doing Breaths is : Lower trachea obstruction would not be identified unless resucue breaths were attempted. Chest compressions in this case depending on the nature of arrest ( Oxygen depletion by smoke inhalation/ Electrical?) would be limited value as you would only be pumping de-oxyginated blood around the system with the main purpose of CPR is to keep the brain oxyginated. In this world where people dont get involved because of potential litigation Im not sure if (The Vinnie Jones approach) is a good thing or a bad thing- I need to be convinced!

When I did my FAW, I was taught to sing "Nellie the Elephant" to myself, not "Stayin' Alive." This corresponded to the 30 compressions and 2 rescue breaths which SJA recommends. I don't know the words to Stayin' Alive and would defy anyone to know the lyrics apart from the "Ah,Ah,Ah,Ah" bit. Does it have to be sung in falsetto?

I'll check with the wife when she gets home - but would this not be done after establishing an airway? I've always understood that I would put an airway in first? I have not done ALS - stopped at AFA... So just curious really? Also ' Stevedm - I have also heard this rumour - However what we continue to confuse on this thread, is that this guidance is for the UNTRAINED first aider. I would expect a paramedic / nurse / advanced first aider even to be able to carry out chest compressions to the right frequency without singing along!

sorry not CPR ...good chest compressions...long day..tired fingers...:(

This isn't taking anything away from FA trainers...this is the first step...see it as drumming up business ... this helps with the general public getting them involved with heartstart then perhaps they progress to first aider or community first responder, first aid trainer, ambulance staff etc... It is designed to raise the awareness... If you look for a problem you will find one....

Apologies...........how did I miss it! Where was that letter from the opticians about 'due an eyesight test' Just shows how good the forum is.........thanks