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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 19 January 2012 17:10:12(UTC)
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firesafety101

Is it safe and are there rules about controlling a MEWP while in the cage up at high level?
frankc  
#2 Posted : 19 January 2012 19:13:15(UTC)
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frankc

Firesafety101 wrote:
Is it safe and are there rules about controlling a MEWP while in the cage up at high level?


The machine should have two speed settings like Hare and Tortoise. It will only move at 'tortoise speed' (slow) while the boom is above a certain height, regardless of the speed setting.
It's certainly SAFER to move the MEWP at ground level incase a wheel goes down a hole or the ground gives way.
Why not just bring the cage down to move the MEWP if concerned?
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 19 January 2012 19:35:11(UTC)
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firesafety101

Thanks Frank, is it operationally correct to drive while the cage is up?

dennish  
#4 Posted : 19 January 2012 21:10:02(UTC)
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dennish

The fact that the machine does not isolate and reduces speed considerably whilst basket is raised suggest operationaly yes this can be conducted but the would be a number of process controls that must be implemeted to ensure this is absolutely safe,
frankc  
#5 Posted : 19 January 2012 21:34:13(UTC)
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frankc

Firesafety101 wrote:
Thanks Frank, is it operationally correct to drive while the cage is up?


There may be certain times where you HAVE to drive with the boom/cage up in the air due to room constraints. It can give the machine flexibility to reach different areas.
paul-ps  
#6 Posted : 20 January 2012 08:19:48(UTC)
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paul-ps

Is it safe?

Compared with lowering it to ground level & moving on, it can't be anywhere near as safe.
Having practical experience of this, if you move at height your visability is limited & engaged on so many diffrent levels. You may not be able to ensure there is no conflict with other pedestrian/traffic movements & you need to consider the state of the ground you are moving over - will the operator be thrown for the MEWP if a wheel suddenly digs in?
Phil Grace  
#7 Posted : 20 January 2012 09:11:01(UTC)
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Phil Grace

Paul asked "Is it Safe?"

Am I being pedantic? Is it not more a case of what are the risks? Surely safety is never a black & white, Y/N situation.
It would seem to me that moving with an elevated basket/platform carries greater risk than with the in the lowered position. Thus whilst it may be necessary in certain circumstances the number of times/occasions should be kept to a minimum and there should be risk mitigation measures in place e.g. banksman at floor level etc etc.

Phil
Juan Carlos Arias  
#8 Posted : 20 January 2012 09:22:20(UTC)
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Juan Carlos Arias

It is safe. at the end of the day this is what this type of equipment is designed to do. Providing you have adequately trained operators aware of risks whilst operating equipment it is safe.
mylesfrancis  
#9 Posted : 20 January 2012 09:24:57(UTC)
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mylesfrancis

It is fairly clear that it is "safer" to move a MEWP with the basket lowered. The question then becomes is it reasonably practicable to lower the basket before moving the MEWP. In the majority of situations I would suggest that yes, it probably is and therefore should be done. Or turn the question on its head - in the event of an accident, how would you justify not lowering the basket before moving the MEWP?
Brett Day SP  
#10 Posted : 20 January 2012 09:50:39(UTC)
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Brett Day SP


I did my IPAF Cat 3b (Cherry Picker) ticket and was told on the course that certainly Cat 3a and 3b (Scissor Lift and Cherry Picker) were safe to drive with the cage at height, in fact the machines were designed to be driven and used in that way, the example given to me was a task involving changing a row of lights in a warehouse, it's quicker and easier to just stay at height and drive (at height) along the line of lights changing bulbs.

We were warned about possibilty of reduced vision and in certain circumstances it would be prudent to have a banksman keeping and eye out at ground level.

So it would seem that IPAF thinks it's ok in certain situations with certain precautions.
PVZ  
#11 Posted : 20 January 2012 10:05:42(UTC)
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PVZ

It dependson the machine and conditions. Most have a 'safe' travel position, usually lowered!

The operating instructions will determine if it is safe to move the MEWP with the platform elevated and under what conditions, i.e. ground and other environmetal conditions such as wind speed.

None of the boom/telescopic MEWPS we have used have been recommended movement with platform extended.
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