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Tinkerbell  
#1 Posted : 19 January 2012 17:27:24(UTC)
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Tinkerbell

Hi,

I work for a large organisation and we have an electronic CBT system to help us manage DSE. It allows you to train, takes you through a self assessment and records your findings.

The problems with it are:
a) Updates and connecting it withour server seem to corrupt the information and automatic email reminders.
b) The reporting side is so complex with over 20 options to report on, that the end User has no idea what report they are pulling and therefore does not use it.

Can anyone recommend an alternative that they have proven success with?
KieranD  
#2 Posted : 19 January 2012 17:54:24(UTC)
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KieranD

Tinkderbell

The simple 'alternative' I'd suggest is called a 'person qualified as an ergonomist' who's a member of the Institute of Ergonomics and Human Factors and a CMIOSH.

Hiring one for a day or two could enable you and your IT support to understand the variety of options and to write your own inhouse guide customised for your own needs. The right supplier could also be contracted to provide email support for a period of x months beyond the period on site; for example, only today about 9.10 a.m. I had an email from an incompany CMIOSH, enquiring about a piece of work I did for him on 18.6.11 and was readily able to provide 'next step' information he could use by 10.00 a.m.

Otherwise you could be patching and mending indefinitely.
Bob Shillabeer  
#3 Posted : 19 January 2012 20:02:53(UTC)
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Bob Shillabeer

Tinkerbell there are a few companies around who do this sort of thing online for you. I have used one at my last company and found it very good after some early difficulties getting people to do it everything went quite well and when I retired from the company all was up to date and worked well. Try looking on the internet at DSE companies I'm sure they are there somewhere.
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 19 January 2012 23:33:18(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Would it not be worth evaluating some technical support options with the existing system provider before contemplating starting from scratch?
Tinkerbell  
#5 Posted : 20 January 2012 07:48:23(UTC)
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Tinkerbell

ron hunter, I chuckled at your comment. My company have been doing this for 2 years now, coming up with excuse after excuse and I have lost my patience!

(KieranD, I like your suggestion, and will keep that concept as my fall back, however we have over 4000 employees soon to expand to 6500... good food for thought.)

Ok, if anyone else out there has a company they use/have used with proven success, I would love to hear from you!
KieranD  
#6 Posted : 20 January 2012 09:20:59(UTC)
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KieranD

Tinkerbell

From what you write, you appear not to be diagnosing your own problem validly. As as been shown in many contexts, when you don't have a valid specification of where you want to go, it really doesn't matter which route you chose.....

The disclosure that technical support for 2 years has been associated with 'excuse after excuse' and loss of patience is a fairly reliable sign that the root issues are far less technical than ones of usability.

For this you need to start with the relevant ISO/EN/BSI standards on usability to design your specification for whatever path you chose, unless you prefer another two or more years of 'excuse after excuse' and loss of even more patience. Money and patient may both prove finite.

Systems Concepts is a a company with proven success relevant to your problem.
Tinkerbell  
#7 Posted : 20 January 2012 10:02:19(UTC)
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Tinkerbell

KieranD,

You are quite right in what you say (spot on in truth - I wish you worked here!). Thanks for your help.
Sue Kitts  
#8 Posted : 20 January 2012 10:13:39(UTC)
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Sue Kitts

This is interesting for me. Sorry I am a new member so please excuse my lack of knowledge. DSE is an area that is very dear to my heart having been a PA for over 30 years and suffered badly through lack of knowledge within companies on the importance of ergonomics and their affects on the muscular skeletal system.

I have completed an on line DSE assessment training course and would like to find out more about getting a recognised qualification as an Ergonomist. Can someone point me in the right direction of where to start looking?
m  
#9 Posted : 20 January 2012 12:51:29(UTC)
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m

We use the British Safety Council's system; they bought Complywise and have integrated it. The old 'back office' was not great but the new version looks to be a lot better.
Bob Shillabeer  
#10 Posted : 22 January 2012 12:04:18(UTC)
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Bob Shillabeer

Hi Tinkerbell, I have found the name of the company I used to help with the DSE process. It required a short training package for each person who used DSE and when they completed that training took a little test and could then undertake thier own DSE which I over saw and talked to them about any issues that were identified. The company website is www.workrite.co.uk. They were very helpful and although only online were very good. Hope this will give you some ideas as to how you can go, but please remeber they are only one of dozens of companies doing the same sort of thing so look round and see which suits you best.
Tinkerbell  
#11 Posted : 23 January 2012 08:43:30(UTC)
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Tinkerbell

Thank you for this information, I have also been looking at the BSC provided service and have collated a small list of possible alternatives.

Just need to set some time aside to have a close look and get them in for comparison.

Cheers!
kdrum  
#12 Posted : 23 January 2012 09:06:11(UTC)
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kdrum

Tinkerbell we use Workrite and so far I prefer it to the older Posturite version. The reports are better and you can taylor your own responses which results in only the appropriate action points coming back in your direction
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