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petermepsted  
#1 Posted : 27 January 2012 16:41:42(UTC)
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petermepsted

Afternoon. Bit late in the day, but I have been asked to provide some information about accident/ill health statistics within the education sector. Tried various google searches and HSE but nothing usable has come up. Has anyone any suggestions or information? Peter
KieranD  
#2 Posted : 27 January 2012 18:33:11(UTC)
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KieranD

Pete There's an important difficulty about the question as you frame it. "some information about accident/ill health statistics' can mean all sorts of things - depending on the purpose(s) for which you need them. You can only interrogate relevant sources appropriately to the extent that you phrase your questions in ways that they can respond to fairly easily. If you'd like to speak to me briefly to see if we can clarify your search focus well enough, you're welcome to phone me on 020 8654 0808.
aud  
#3 Posted : 27 January 2012 18:42:11(UTC)
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aud

Hi Peter. How curious - I tried to find some stats for this sector too this week. No luck, and I lost interest. Of course any stats via HSE would only cover RIDDOR ones, and will also contain many students or pupils who are taken to hospital as a precaution usually "just in case" and I don't know whether these would be separated from the employees / staff. So how useful pure numbers would be is highly questionable. The Education Sector covers and combines all schools with FE / universities - presumably you have a specific focus / interest. Depending on what you are looking for, another way might just be to do a bit of a benchmark covering your particular needs with amenable organisations. You would need to supply figures of your own to offer as part of the deal. I'm assuming you work in the sector. I'll watch this post to see if there is a source I am unaware of.
barnaby  
#4 Posted : 27 January 2012 23:39:05(UTC)
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I know that several years ago the HSE's Schools Education Advisory Committee used to receive accident stats for schools (as said above, these would be RIDDOR related; but I think they separated out employees from pupils). The committee may well no longer exist but I'd be surprised if the Education Sector didn't keep stats. I'd suggest you ask for them (You could always frame it as Freedom of Information request!)
KieranD  
#5 Posted : 28 January 2012 06:23:57(UTC)
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KieranD

Having done some expert witness work (as a chartered occupational psychologist and chartered safety/health practitioner) commissioned by one of the teachers' unions, I know that unions gather data on accidents and other aspects of health and safety. While they don't publish them other than for a particular purpose to suit their members, in my experience it's possible to negotiate access to statistical data from them when you know how to ask for and analyse what they can provide from their records. Similarly with newspapers that specialise in educational issues: offer to exchange information they value and ask for data you want in ways the editorail staff can easily supply them without sweat.
petermepsted  
#6 Posted : 28 January 2012 12:02:17(UTC)
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petermepsted

Morning all Thanks for responses. I apologise for the vagueness of the question - it was made late in the day and in frustration at not being able to find any useful information easily. Naturally there are many variables (pupils/staff/visitors) and many differing factors in the compilation of statistics making it difficult to accurately compile and as 'aud' stated, many will be precautionary. The question was put to me by a head teacher who was curious about how education (not any specific sector) sat in comparison with other sectors of industry, with regard to health and safety, the meaning behind this was relevant to staff and not pupils. I suppose another way of framing would be 'how safe is it to work in the education sector'. In light of the comments, I think I will follow up some suggestions next week - I had just hoped that there would be somewhere a straightforward set of information. It is strange how sometimes a simple question is the most difficult to answer. Thanks again to all. Peter
KieranD  
#7 Posted : 28 January 2012 13:15:58(UTC)
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KieranD

Peter By framing the question as 'how safe - and healthy - is it to work in a school or college?', it's possible to trace data on particular classes of risk, such as violence and stress, for which there's already research published. Amongst social scientists, difficulty answering an apparently simple question is actual normal rather than 'strange'. That's just one reason why Ragnar Loftstedt's answer 'reclaiming' safety and health is such an innovative response to the 'simple' question about the 'burden' of safety and health legislation.
farmsafety  
#8 Posted : 28 January 2012 18:22:50(UTC)
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farmsafety

petermepsted wrote:
Afternoon. Bit late in the day, but I have been asked to provide some information about accident/ill health statistics within the education sector. Tried various google searches and HSE but nothing usable has come up. Has anyone any suggestions or information? Peter
HSE website: http://www.hse.gov.uk/slips/education/index.htm and http://www.hse.gov.uk/sl...education/statistics.htm "55% of all accidents in education are caused by a slip or a trip. Last year, almost 2000 major injury slip and trip accidents in the education sector were reported to us, 571 of which were to employees, a 5% rise on the previous year. 90% of major accidents resulted in a broken bone causing considerable personal distress and a significant amount of time away from work."
MrsBlue  
#9 Posted : 30 January 2012 11:35:14(UTC)
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"Depending on what you are looking for, another way might just be to do a bit of a benchmark covering your particular needs with amenable organisations. You would need to supply figures of your own to offer as part of the deal. I'm assuming you work in the sector." The above is a quote from aud at post No 3. I work across a Nursery (inlcuing a baby unit), Infant, Junior and Senior School. To enable appropriate benchmarking I would be willing to divulge on a termly basis my non-reportable and reportable accident statistics including sports injuries which I record separately. Any offers please PM me Cheers Rich
jay  
#10 Posted : 30 January 2012 11:58:45(UTC)
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jay

You can get some injury data based on RIDDOR if you look under the item Education, but it will inculde ALL education--from primary to universities. http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/tables/ridind.xls There is an entire range of tables at:- http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/tables/index.htm Alternatively, you can use the Health and Safety Online or HandS-On, a free-to-use service developed by HSE’s Statistics Branch. HandS-On is supposed to allow users to view, manipulate, create and export tables from HSE’s injury and ill health data using a powerful analysis tool. https://handson.hse.gov.uk/hse/public/home.aspx
ptaylor14  
#11 Posted : 30 January 2012 12:48:21(UTC)
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ptaylor14

petermepsted wrote:
Afternoon. Bit late in the day, but I have been asked to provide some information about accident/ill health statistics within the education sector. Tried various google searches and HSE but nothing usable has come up. Has anyone any suggestions or information? Peter
Go on the USHA website
petermepsted  
#12 Posted : 31 January 2012 12:58:25(UTC)
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petermepsted

Thanks to all for responses. Have been using suggestions and beginning to put together some information.
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