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McGann900624  
#1 Posted : 26 January 2012 13:44:55(UTC)
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McGann900624

Does anybody know a local registered CDM coordinator (Leeds)
PH2  
#2 Posted : 26 January 2012 15:51:41(UTC)
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PH2

Hi, I personally don't know of any but if you try the OSHCR website, type in West Yorkshire, and Construction there are 63 construction based H&S consultants. If you check their profiles you should (hopefully) find a suitable CDMC in there. PH2
McGann900624  
#3 Posted : 26 January 2012 15:53:49(UTC)
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McGann900624

excellent - cheers
SP900308  
#4 Posted : 26 January 2012 15:57:12(UTC)
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SP900308

The best place to look is via the APS website and look on the CDMC Register for 'Registered' CDMCs. Simon
firesafety101  
#5 Posted : 27 January 2012 13:26:02(UTC)
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firesafety101

Does a CDM-C have to be registered?
Chris Cahill  
#6 Posted : 27 January 2012 14:37:22(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

CDM 2007 Reg 4 requires clients to ensure that people appointed as CDM-C and those who accept such an appointment have the competence to perform the functions of a CDM-C . Reg 9 puts a duty on the client to ensure reasonable steps are taken to allocate sufficient resources ands adequate arrangements to perform those functions. OSCHR is a register primarily for general safety. APS specialise in Construction as SP900308 advises the APS register is the more appropriate source
JJ Prendergast  
#7 Posted : 27 January 2012 14:40:34(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

This still doesn't mean you have to be 'registered' to undertake work as a CDMC. On either of the mentioned registers. Just competent, and to be able to show that you are.
Chris Cahill  
#8 Posted : 27 January 2012 14:50:27(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

JJ Prendergast is correct when stating that "This still doesn't mean you have to be 'registered' to undertake work as a CDMC." you don`t have to do lots of things but I believe we should follow a best practice principle. My advice would still be look on the APS register if you do not know of a competent CDM-C
firesafety101  
#9 Posted : 27 January 2012 15:06:50(UTC)
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firesafety101

Thanks for answering.
firesafety101  
#10 Posted : 28 January 2012 09:47:20(UTC)
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firesafety101

Lots of health and safety people do fire risk assessments. Best practice suggests a fire risk assesser should be on one of the registers. Is this two faced to say CDMC should be registered and FRAs should not be?
Chris Cahill  
#11 Posted : 28 January 2012 10:45:55(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

Definition of a best practice is a technique or methodology that, through experience and research, has proved to reliably lead to a desired result. My experience shows that for the CDMC question the APS register is an excellent source As for fire risk assessments, experience and research will determine what is required.
firesafety101  
#12 Posted : 28 January 2012 17:23:09(UTC)
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firesafety101

Cahill33411 wrote:
Definition of a best practice is a technique or methodology that, through experience and research, has proved to reliably lead to a desired result. My experience shows that for the CDMC question the APS register is an excellent source As for fire risk assessments, experience and research will determine what is required.
Do you mind if I ask are you on that list?
Chris Cahill  
#13 Posted : 28 January 2012 19:19:27(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

Oh dear we do seemed to have strayed off of the original post. Since you ask,yes I am a member of the APS because it is relevant to my line of work . I am not on the CDM-C register I am on the APS Construction Safety Practitioner (CSP) register because that is my line of business. Just to clarify my earlier post If I was seeking a fire risk assessor I would look at an appropriate register to fill the position. I am not in the fire risk assess business so I am a little rusty on the appropriate register. I agree that it would be as you put it "two faced" otherwise. As I stated earlier I would prefer the best practice route. I should also state that is MY advice and MY opinion,Of course persons must make their own mind up of what route they wish to take to resource the appropriate skills set.
Chris Cahill  
#14 Posted : 28 January 2012 20:43:35(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

My final post on this subject is that the original post was "Does anybody know a local registered CDM coordinator (Leeds)" therefore advice given was where to obtain a source of a Registered CDM. Whether persons wish to use registered or unregistered persons for their business is entirely a matter for them
Stedman  
#15 Posted : 29 January 2012 15:34:36(UTC)
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Stedman

Although I am a Registered Member of the Association of Project Safety, unlike nursing or other Registered professions, there is such thing as a Registered CDM Co-ordinator. There are also other bodies who also run their own register of CDM-Cs such as the Institute of Civil Engineering or the Institute of Construction Safety. The RMaPS title is perhaps misleading, but it was introduced to originally identify those members of the Association of Project Safety who took their compulsory membership exam late in 2007.
Stedman  
#16 Posted : 30 January 2012 13:50:26(UTC)
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Stedman

stedman wrote:
Although I am a Registered Member of the Association of Project Safety, unlike nursing or other Registered professions, there is such thing as a Registered CDM Co-ordinator. There are also other bodies who also run their own register of CDM-Cs such as the Institute of Civil Engineering or the Institute of Construction Safety. The RMaPS title is perhaps misleading, but it was introduced to originally identify those members of the Association of Project Safety who took their compulsory membership exam late in 2007.
What I ment to say above, is there is NO such thing as a Registered CDM-C.
firesafety101  
#17 Posted : 30 January 2012 15:33:07(UTC)
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firesafety101

Stedman very interesting that. So people register themselves on various Registers as qualifying in various areas, and that would include the work of a CDM C, but no one can actually register themselves as CDM Coordinator?
Stedman  
#18 Posted : 30 January 2012 16:16:42(UTC)
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Stedman

Firesafety101 wrote:
Stedman very interesting that. So people register themselves on various Registers as qualifying in various areas, and that would include the work of a CDM C, but no one can actually register themselves as CDM Coordinator?
Correct. There is no central body for the registration of CDM-Cs.
JJ Prendergast  
#19 Posted : 30 January 2012 16:37:52(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

All such register, be they for CDM-C, Fire Risk Assessors, OSCHR, CMIOSH etc etc are not required by Statute They are just another hoop to be jumped through, devised by organisations to try and make another quick buck out of h&s people and to give a so called credibility stamp. All 'gloss and spin'. I am not arguing that people shouldn't be competent and qualified etc, just that further layers of 'paperwork' help nobody. I am not on any of these registers, yet I have no problem securing work (so far!) even in these dire economic times.
Chris Cahill  
#20 Posted : 30 January 2012 17:02:47(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

I would add one point ,The CDM Regs 2007 ACoP (appendix 4) particularly mentions CDM co-ordinators registers, administered by various named bodies as a way of demonstrating competence. Of course as stated previously it is not statute but I am sure in my mind that it is usually beneficial to comply with the ACoP
JEB1947  
#21 Posted : 31 January 2012 12:53:48(UTC)
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JEB1947

I believe tha question was:- Does anybody know a local registered CDM coordinator (Leeds) Yes I do telephone 01904 784421 ask for John
SP900308  
#22 Posted : 31 January 2012 13:38:21(UTC)
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SP900308

John, I like your style. If only you responded at post #2, would have saved a lot of discussion about nothing - IMO!
Chris Cahill  
#23 Posted : 31 January 2012 14:38:04(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

Good answer John!
firesafety101  
#24 Posted : 31 January 2012 15:05:00(UTC)
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firesafety101

CDM Regs ACOP refers to assessing competence of CDM C for a larger or more complex project. Does anyone have an idea where this starts (project value for instance)?
Ellis80142  
#25 Posted : 31 January 2012 15:56:29(UTC)
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Ellis80142

I am also a CDM-C a member of the Association for Projet Safety and have CMIOSH status is you need any help. I am based in Leeds. My number is 07821 264647
Chris Cahill  
#26 Posted : 31 January 2012 20:47:25(UTC)
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Chris Cahill

What a question firesafety101! Well I have no definitive answer,CDM 2007 Regulations require you to decline an appointment if you are not competent;so it must be a matter of judgement of the duty holders. I don`t believe it can be judged on project value alone, usual or unusual risk should also be considered. On small projects with no unusual risks The ACoP suggests appropriate qualifications (of an individual) are sufficient for the role of CDM-C. For the larger more complex project a number of individuals may take on the role such that their specialist skills and experiences can be brought to bear. For larger, more complex projects with unusual or higher risk the ACoP suggests to me, that a company rather than an individual should fulfill the role of CDM-C So short answer just a matter of judgement from experience will decide.
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