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Milford17771  
#1 Posted : 02 February 2012 15:42:40(UTC)
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Milford17771

A friend of mine owns a haulage company....one of his guys was injured yesterday by a falling scaffold board whilst delivering to a construction site in London. The contractor is trying to get him to report it under RIDDOR instead of doing it himslf.....the guy got a punctured lung out of this so obviously it should be reported immediatly....should he insist that the contractor reports it?
safetyamateur  
#2 Posted : 02 February 2012 15:54:45(UTC)
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safetyamateur

I wouldn't stand on ceremony, Milford. Report by any means necessary, I say
Milford17771  
#3 Posted : 02 February 2012 15:59:06(UTC)
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Milford17771

Thats what I thought.....unfortunatly noone wants a RIDDOR on their record do they.....but I will be advising that he does it asap.
jay  
#4 Posted : 02 February 2012 15:59:55(UTC)
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jay

It is the duty of the "Employer" and not the contractor to report applicable accidents to employees. It is only applicable accuidents to the self-employed and members of public that have to be reported by the person in change of premises.
jde  
#5 Posted : 02 February 2012 16:01:59(UTC)
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jde

The details given are sketchy. A punctured lung per se is not reportable as a major injury, however, if the accident meets the other criteria of being detained in hospital or being off work then get it reported without waiting for the contractor.
Milford17771  
#6 Posted : 02 February 2012 16:08:34(UTC)
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Milford17771

He was taken to hospital from site so therefore reportable......the rib that punctured it would have been sufficient anyway. He is now reporting it as a matter of urgency. (Jay....thats how I read it hence the question).
Milford17771  
#7 Posted : 02 February 2012 16:28:20(UTC)
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Milford17771

Getting myself confused now......too used to dealing with members of the public......it will depend if he stays in hospital but I guess the ribs will still swing it.
kdrew  
#8 Posted : 02 February 2012 16:38:39(UTC)
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kdrew

I'm with Jay on this, reporting is the Employers responsibily - the owner of the haulage company not the contractor. Kevin
HSSnail  
#9 Posted : 02 February 2012 16:41:09(UTC)
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HSSnail

Milford from what you have said I agree with Jay. This chap was onsite as part of his employment so its his employer that should report. The taken to hospital is immaterial because as you say he is not a member of public. So the rib is a bone which to puncture the lung must be broken and that makes it a major injury.
jay  
#10 Posted : 02 February 2012 16:43:43(UTC)
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jay

Regarding whether it is a major injury, surprisingly, a punctured lung is NOT, but will be if 1) the rib is having a fracture, or 2) it required resuscitation by first aiders/paramedics or 3) the injured employee has admittance to hospital for more than 24 hours.
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