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9Yally  
#1 Posted : 02 February 2012 09:41:39(UTC)
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9Yally

Morning, The heating system is one of our warehouses has gone and the recorded temperature by the night staff was - 4 last night!. There is now an argument about who will be paying to get it fixed etc. Has anyone used temporary indoor heaters to good effect ? Just looking to hire some ? If so can you send me a link. Not sure how effective they will be and even if the idea will be sustainable for obvious reasons. Thank you in advance
David Bannister  
#2 Posted : 02 February 2012 10:54:45(UTC)
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David Bannister

Hi 9, the most commonly available solution will be LPG fired "jet engine" heaters. These are very effective but do introduce very significant fire risks, the magnitude of which will depend on a number of factors. The gas bottles, the connections, the positioning of the jet, the nearness of combustible goods, ventilation needs, moveability etc will all need to be looked at very closely if you are to go down this route. Your fire insurers will not be keen on this option but may be persuaded if you can convince them that your risk controls are good. They also come in a diesel fuelled variety (stinky, liquid fuel filling and storage plus all the above). Infra red radiators on poles would provide a very localised heat source and maybe an option for a staff rest room, as will LPG pole mounted heaters but with the above caveats. There's a good chance somebody will suggest thermal knickers and running!
stevie40  
#3 Posted : 02 February 2012 11:23:26(UTC)
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stevie40

Or just get the heating system fixed. As it stands, you run the risk of pipes freezing and cracking in restrooms, leading to flooding incidents. Also, there may be some potential for stock damage depending on what is stored. In other words, look at the commercial considerations as well as H&S. If you are a tenant, I suspect the cost will rest with you since most commercial property leases are on "Full Repairing" terms - the tenant pays for repairs.
9Yally  
#4 Posted : 02 February 2012 12:02:31(UTC)
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9Yally

Thanks for the replies, Have sent you a PM David
DP  
#5 Posted : 02 February 2012 13:05:23(UTC)
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DP

Additional to the fire risk noted by David on the 'jets' - you need to ensure that there is sufficient intake and extraction of air to replace any volume of gas being delivered - Propane burns to Carbon Dioxide.
johnmurray  
#6 Posted : 02 February 2012 15:32:07(UTC)
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johnmurray

And please do not forget a good part of the output of the cheaper liquid/ lpg fuelled heaters (those where the flame exhaust is exhausted out of the front) will be water vapour, leading to excess humidity. Cold, clammy. Major problems for any staff with respiratory problems.
Scott10  
#7 Posted : 03 February 2012 11:36:44(UTC)
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Scott10

Hi, Try a company called Rapid Climate control we use them when additional heating is required in our Distribution centers.
Graham Bullough  
#8 Posted : 03 February 2012 16:31:16(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

To expand on John Murray's comment at #6, excess humidity from heaters of the types he mentions can also adversely affect items stored if they are vulnerable to moisture. The same goes for unpainted metal fixtures, etc. Older forum users may remember publicity from the late 1970s/early 1980s about civil servant Clive Ponting finding and reporting that MOD warehouses for barbed wire and similar commodities were heated. If barbed wire is prone to deterioration through rust during storage, perhaps there was some sense in having low level heating inside the warehouses in order to keep their contents dry. My mention of this aspect was prompted by having read recently a fascinating book about disused stone mines, notably near Bath, being used for storing vast quantities of ammunition safe from aerial bombing during WW2. Moisture and high humidity tend to be prevalent in most mines, including the ones near Bath. After it was realised that steel shellcases and ammunition boxes were very prone to corrosion and wooden boxes tended to disintegrate through rot, a fortune was spent on measures to try and control the humidity in the underground stores. p.s. 9yally - On a whimsical note, if the heating in the warehouse has "gone" as you state, has anyone thought about going to search for it, and with what outcome? Also, does the warehouse heating have a habit of absconding?!! :-)
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