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We have an employee requesting his FLT training certificate to keep at home. The boss likes to keep all our training certificates together, but as far as i can see, it's the employees qualification and we can't refuse him the certificate (we did implement and pay for the training). If we keep a copy of the certificate then we have all the informatipon we need anyway.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Kralph wrote:We have an employee requesting his FLT training certificate to keep at home. The boss likes to keep all our training certificates together, but as far as i can see, it's the employees qualification and we can't refuse him the certificate (we did implement and pay for the training). If we keep a copy of the certificate then we have all the informatipon we need anyway.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any replies.
I just keep copies (scan and hard copy) in Head Office, and I have them on the internal server, therefore available to anyone who needs them.
But like you say, I believe the operative who attended and passed the training should be able to take the training records themselves.
Some employers like to keep them, so the workers themselves dont build them up and leave.
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The employee could ask for copies of training records and certification under the data protection act.
You could provide them with copies and keep the original in there employment file, and if the employee wants a duplicate certificate charge him for it - keeps both sides get what they want.
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As with anything, it belongs to whoever paid for it.
Time may come where the Enforcing Authorities are looking for authentic documents - I'd advise employers to keep the originals.
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If the employer has paid for this training the legal stance is that they own the certificates. Absolutely no problem with copies issued to employees (scan/hard copy or both).
Agree with Ron on this one, employers should keep the originals.
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Agree
Although a couple of years ago we 14 of us told to come in on Saturday morning to do a CS certificate . We were told if you don't turn up its going to cost you £65 , ok fair enough I wanted it anyway
After work went belly up we all got deducted the £ 65 anyway and wouldn't release the tickets hard or copy ! also decided to deduct PPE, After a little dialogue I received my hard copy .
Though still waiting for my deductions .funny how some subjects turn up ?
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I do not think there is anything explicict unless someone knows of case/tribunal rulings. Although the company has paid for it, the certificates are issued to named individuals and from a non-expert perspective, are normally issued to them.
It is a diferent issue in context of maintaing records and the need to keep originals for demonstrating compliance.
Would anyone whose company has piad for a NEBOSH/BSC Certificate/Diploma course accept that the certificate belongs to the company?
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The certificate belongs to the individual that passed the training and is named on it.
I would certainly not let an employer keep my certificates that I worked hard for, even if they did contribute to the cost of the course.
If your employer looses the original, sometimes there is no way to get a replacement.
Also if you left the job what are the chances the employer would surrender your certificates which you could use for your CV.
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It is a very good question and I suspect there is not a simple answer. For instance, there are many different types of training and permits issued, from a simple CSCS card to a CPCS, one costs about £47.50 and the about £1500. A card is provided and the user keeps the original to produce when required. I was once told by a telehandler CPCS operative that the company kept his card when he left.
Some national clients provide permits for access to their infrastructure, but the permit states that it belongs to the client and can be withdrawn by the client, however it is paid for by the contractor.
There are other qualifications such as first aider, NVQs and Bachelor/ Master degrees which might be paid for by the company or in part. Obviously the qualification is personal to the individual.
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We keep all originals regardless of the name on it. However, if said named individual leaves to company and the certification is in date then we supply them with the originals for their future use.
We also have training agreements in place for 'higher cost' training to ensure we don't pay out a lot of cash for an employee to leave after completing training / passing exams etc...
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Hi folks
I would ask the awarding body. Some of them specify that "no learner is disadvantaged" so you are not allowed to withhold certs.
Regards
Linda
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Anyone attending a ConstructionSkills Site Safety Plus Course should receive their "original" certificate.
The scheme rules to trainers state
"ConstructionSkills will award certificates to successful Delegates and forward the certificates to the Training Provider. Employers of the Delegate(s) must be made aware that the certificate is personal to the Delegate."
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