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TDS1984  
#1 Posted : 15 February 2012 12:04:09(UTC)
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TDS1984

Been asked to consider a manual handling task, and whether a risk assessment is necessary. I've formulated my own opinions, but would like to canvass those of my learned H&S colleagues. The task is only undertaken a couple of times a month, and takes about 20-30 minutes. It involves moving (between 7 & 28 dependant on batch size) 25kg bags of ingredients from a pallet into a hopper. The pallet is placed next to said hopper during the task, and a scissor lift is provided to enable the operator to adjust the level of the pallet as the load goes down. What do you think? Risk assess or not?
CARRICKMAN  
#2 Posted : 15 February 2012 12:12:29(UTC)
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CARRICKMAN

I would - it's still a work activity after all.Man handling involved lifting bags.Are bags sealed and require tool to open?Does operator require PPE?Training needs , MEWP training?Just a taster but you see how quickly a RA for a 20 min activity grows.
redken  
#3 Posted : 15 February 2012 12:15:44(UTC)
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redken

You have risk assessed it, how else did you determine this effective control method - guess work? "The pallet is placed next to said hopper during the task, and a scissor lift is provided to enable the operator to adjust the level of the pallet as the load goes down"
SP900308  
#4 Posted : 15 February 2012 12:48:49(UTC)
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SP900308

TDS, Must be a big scissor lift to accommodate an Operative + 28 x 25kg bags = 800Kg? I'd assess the SWL of the lift!
phargreaves04  
#5 Posted : 15 February 2012 12:49:28(UTC)
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phargreaves04

I would agree with redken, you have assessed the risk, and provided a control measure, added to the fact this activity is seldom carried out is in itself a control measure. So you have brought the likelihood and severity down.
IanDakin  
#6 Posted : 15 February 2012 13:36:59(UTC)
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IanDakin

I would suggest that you have carried out an assessment, but it would be best (as the weight is 25kg and the guidance in the Regs on risk assessment would indicate one is needed)to formalise this. I would suggest a quick use of the MAC tool, and if the score comes out low, a more detailed assessment would not be required. If you were to get visited by EHO/HSE, then it would be the MAC tool they would use, so it makes sense to use it.
TDS1984  
#7 Posted : 15 February 2012 13:59:13(UTC)
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TDS1984

SP900308 wrote:
TDS, Must be a big scissor lift to accommodate an Operative + 28 x 25kg bags = 800Kg? I'd assess the SWL of the lift!
I think you misunderstand me SP, the scissor lift only lifts the ingredients, not the operative too. It is however well within it's SWL.
IanDakin wrote:
I would suggest a quick use of the MAC tool, and if the score comes out low, a more detailed assessment would not be required.
Thanks Ian, that confirms things in my mind, I'd already run through the MAC tool, and decided it didn't need a detailed assessment. Thanks to the other posters also, it's always good to get a second opinion if you're not sure.
frankc  
#8 Posted : 15 February 2012 21:31:57(UTC)
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frankc

TDS1984 wrote:
SP900308 wrote:
TDS, Must be a big scissor lift to accommodate an Operative + 28 x 25kg bags = 800Kg? I'd assess the SWL of the lift!
I think you misunderstand me SP, the scissor lift only lifts the ingredients, not the operative too. It is however well within it's SWL.
How do the ingredients get into the hopper, TDS if there is no operative in the scissor lift? Furthermore, as the scissor lift is used to 'adjust the level of the pallet as the load goes down' does that mean it bears the weight of up to 28 x 25Kg bags? Sorry if i've got the wrong end of the stick.
SNS  
#9 Posted : 15 February 2012 22:27:44(UTC)
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SNS

Sounds very similar to our situation, putting 25kg bags of ingredients into a mixer. Ours is a daily occurrence though and there have been MH challenges in the past. We have a pallet lifter to enable the operative to slide the bags from the pallet at a convenient height without having to lift manually, appears to be working when monitored. Frankc, probably using a pallet lifter, not a MEWP scissor lift.
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