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rob clarke  
#1 Posted : 23 February 2012 17:32:22(UTC)
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rob clarke

I like a good safety data sheet as much as the next person - as long as the next person is a safety bod, but I have just received an update for 70% Isopropanol that weighed in at a sleek 117 pages. It seems that most of this comprises various exposure scenarios that are derived from REACH, and document the various ways we can use isopropanol. Has anyone got any experience of writing safety data sheets who can tell me if this is what we can all look forward to in the years to come as I am really not looking forward to having to review 100+ page documents every time we get a change in the uses. Especially for the commonly used multi-purpose chemicals. I also hate to think how many trees are going to be needed to send out a copy with every delivery we get.
chris.packham  
#2 Posted : 23 February 2012 21:16:09(UTC)
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chris.packham

I remember several years ago attending a BOHS conference and listening to a representative from a major oil and chemical producer on REACH. She commented that for some of their substances they would have around 500 Exposure Scenarios! In my opinion this is one of the nonsenses of REACH. REACH is only really concerned with individual substances, whereas the reality in my world is that I am almost always dealing with mixtures, and mixtures that are constantly changing as work progresses, chemicals are mixed, reacted, diluted, contaminated, etc. etc. Consider a product with, say, ten different constituents, each of which will have its own Exposure Scenarios for the uses of the individual substance in the mixture. Given the poor standard of many safety data sheets (I once reviewed 50 for a client and only one was correct in all respects.) what chance does the end user, who may be the owner of a small car body repair shop with a paint spray booth, have of understanding the paperwork? I have seen a "generic exposure scenario" produced by a pan-European chemical society that I could not understand, so what chance have SMEs. In any case, why bother with the Exposure Scenarios? Just take a look at section 6-1 of the Health and Safety at Work Act, which requires the supplier of a product to provide advice so that the end user can use the product safely for the purpose for which it was supplied. I have argued that in 1974 we introduced legislation that, for the end user, was superior to REACH! If anyone wants more on the just PM me with your e-mail address and I will send you a handout for the talk I have given to several IOSH branches on this (COSHH, CHIP, REACH and CLP). Chris
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 23 February 2012 23:35:11(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The days of the hard-copy MSDS are surely limited. The only sensible way to index and access the information of the magnitude that REACH requires is via the original supplier website?
danny28  
#4 Posted : 29 February 2012 03:05:18(UTC)
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danny28

In some company, they used to convert the MSDS into a 2 pages of ducument called WIC (work-floor instruction card). Don't know much on the details.
descarte8  
#5 Posted : 29 February 2012 12:33:16(UTC)
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descarte8

I have done similar for a company I used to work for and called it a "1 Page data sheet" it was not a COSHH assessment but rather a condensed MSDS. When deciding to make one yourself, consider audience, the technical / complex details can be lost on most workers without a scientific/biological background and some of the toxicological information can be quite alarming / extreme and has to be in to perspective / context Des
redken  
#6 Posted : 29 February 2012 13:04:35(UTC)
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redken

The rules are = brevity is not allowed!
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