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gonzo		#1 Posted : 02 March 2012 12:44:47(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		We have an instalation of solar PV on a school roof it will last 39 days do I need to nofity HSE with an F10 .The work will not require any construstion work
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peter gotch		#2 Posted : 02 March 2012 13:05:37(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Gonzo I think this falls within the definition of "construction work" in CDM - you are altering the roof. So yes CDM applies and it's also notifiable.
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RayRapp		#3 Posted : 02 March 2012 14:08:08(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		It is the client's duty to notify the HSE with the F10 via the CDM-C. Unless you are the client, then it's not your responsibility. Installation of solar PV panels will be deemed as 'construction' work as per CDM.
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boblewis		#4 Posted : 02 March 2012 17:23:06(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		As a contractor you also have the duty not to start work until there is an F10 in place Bob
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Canopener		#5 Posted : 02 March 2012 19:31:05(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I don't think you're going to be able to 'weedle' out of notification or the other requirements of CDM by claiming that this isn't construction work!
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SpaceNinja		#6 Posted : 03 March 2012 16:35:27(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		RayRapp wrote: It is the client's duty to notify the HSE with the F10 via the CDM-C. Unless you are the client, then it's not your responsibility. Installation of solar PV panels will be deemed as 'construction' work as per CDM. I've always thought it was the CDM Co-ordinator's responsibility to notify the HSE? That said check the client is aware of their duties under the CDM regs, depending who the client is they may have no idea the regs exist! As the work is over 30 days it is definitely notifiable.
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Chris Cahill		#7 Posted : 03 March 2012 20:57:21(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		It is the clients duty to appoint the (CDM-C ) It is the CDM-C duty to inform HSE An F10 is usually used but the information can be notified by other means (You do not have to use the F10 it is the information as set out in schedule 1 CDM 2007 that is required not the F10) Failure of the client to appoint duty holders such as CDM-C and Principal contractor will result in the client becoming legally liable for the role of PC or/and CDM-C
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Stedman		#8 Posted : 04 March 2012 00:37:27(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		quote=Chris Cahill]It is the clients duty to appoint the (CDM-C ) It is the CDM-C duty to inform HSE An F10 is usually used but the information can be notified by other means (You do not have to use the F10 it is the information as set out in schedule 1 CDM 2007 that is required not the F10) Failure of the client to appoint duty holders such as CDM-C and Principal contractor will result in the client becoming legally liable for the role of PC or/and CDM-C .......and it is the Designer's duty to inform the Client of their CDM responsibilities, however I get the impression that on this occasion the installer is also the Designer.
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Chris Cahill		#9 Posted : 04 March 2012 07:17:11(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I concur with “stedman” The designer is usually the first point of contact for a client and would have a duty to ensure that the client is aware of their duties under CDM 2007. This duty is aimed at the designer who has the initial or main contact.
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firesafety101		#10 Posted : 05 March 2012 14:02:50(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		My quick reply seems to have gone missing? It appears to me that the cart is in front of the horse, if correct the client needs to appoint a CDM-C and Designer. Then the Principal Contractor has to be appointed. Written records could be useful.
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SP900308		#11 Posted : 06 March 2012 12:36:12(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		gonzo, 1. What makes you think this isn't construction work? 2. If not constructing, then what is taking 39 days to do?
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Stedman		#12 Posted : 06 March 2012 13:16:27(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		This is not a complex project; therefore I cannot see why the CDM-C, Designer and Principal Contractor cannot be the same organisation.
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