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Dave C  
#1 Posted : 05 March 2012 12:21:35(UTC)
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Dave C

Have had an employee say they fainted in the workplace and came to and other than slight knock when they hit ground though didn't say anything at the time and carried on working? No apparent reason for fainting - I suppose is must still be recorded as an accident as she was carrying a work activity?
Betta Spenden  
#2 Posted : 05 March 2012 12:33:07(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Did she, just prior to fainting, place the back of the wrist to forehead, look up and utter the words, “oh Mr Darcy, I am undone”.

I would record it as an accident as:

1. I would want the reason for fainting fully investigated. Temperatures, work load, chemicals etc.
2. I would want an audit trail showing that the fainting happened.
3. You said “received a knock”. I would want that recorded, especially any blow to the head. If not for now, then later.

A friend of mine suffered a slight blow to the head. He was dead within 3 years from a brain tumour. Maybe not related but who is to know.
m  
#3 Posted : 05 March 2012 12:42:54(UTC)
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m

Crikey! Betta's post was an emotional roller coaster; from humorous literary references to dead pals!

At the very least it should be recorded as some first aid was (if it was) given at the time. Even if the first aid was sit still until you feel better. Then you can track back for any reoccurences.
Dave C  
#4 Posted : 05 March 2012 12:48:01(UTC)
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Dave C

Thanks for that , I had recorded it so another one for the monthly stats!!!
holmezy  
#5 Posted : 05 March 2012 13:18:53(UTC)
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holmezy

Hi All,

just to throw the cat among the pigeons......and I know how people like to report!

fainting could or might be construed as losing conciousness, which under certain conditions would be RIDDORable?

tongue firmly in cheek!

Holmezy
walker  
#6 Posted : 05 March 2012 13:32:04(UTC)
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walker

I think I'd put a note in the stats saying it was not work related so far as you can tell.

Investigate it with usual rigour though - the nicest people have been known to use ambulance chasers

FYI - in my system, we don't have "accidents" they are all incidents subcatagorised as injury & non-injury
Graham Bullough  
#7 Posted : 05 March 2012 14:38:16(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

In relation to fainting: among the accident/incident reports I see from my employer's schools are occasional reports of pupils fainting during secondary school science lessons. In almost all such cases the pupil involved is male, of early teen age and being shown a video clip of a baby being born. I confess I've never enquired as to whether the video clip involved is the same for all/most of the cases and especially graphic in nature.

Older people in OS&H like myself might recall the eye safety video of 1970s vintage which had to be withdrawn from use because its inclusion of close-up footage of surgery to remove a foreign body from someone's eye caused some viewers to promptly keel over when they saw it.

p.s. M - some forum users might wonder if you are really the fabled head of the special intelligence service alias MI6 and using OS&H as a subterfuge. However, if you are, you’re unlikely to admit to it - and any denial of course might simply be regarded as a perpetuation of such subterfuge! :-)
john200856  
#8 Posted : 05 March 2012 15:42:10(UTC)
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john200856

If they faint (pass out) first then bang their head it could mean that they were already unwell maybe due to excess drinking or drug use or both the night before... cue wedding day videos of brides and grooms keeling over. Diseases such as Diabetes should also be considered as low/very high blood sugar levels can cause fainting. I also think some folks could faint if asked to do something!
Graham Bullough  
#9 Posted : 05 March 2012 16:15:45(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Some useful pragmatic responses have been made about 1) asking, tactfully of course, as to why the employee might have fainted, and 2) keeping a record of the incident, including the knock/bump to the employee's head. Here's another hopefully useful point: After instances where people have had head bumps but were able to carry on, it may also be appropriate for relevant people, notably close relatives and friends, to know of the incident and be alert for signs or mention of symptoms (e.g. double vision, headaches, dizziness) of delayed concussion or other adverse consequences. It is (or should be) standard practice in UK schools for pupils who have suffered head bumps but displayed no immediate after-effects.

p.s. Good to see Betta's literary allusion at #2 providing some cultural improvement on this forum. At the risk of being pedantic - and also admitting that my knowledge of Jane Austen's novels is somewhat scant - wouldn't Liz Bennet's loss of consciousness in the presence of Mr Darcy be classed as more of a swoon than a faint?!!! :-)
HSSnail  
#10 Posted : 06 March 2012 10:36:03(UTC)
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HSSnail

Unless there is something about the work activity I don't see this as reportable. But a thought does spring to mind, you say this is a lady - how old? I have know some lady's be prone to fainting during pregnancy might need to be part of an assessment particularly if working with machinery etc.
Safety Smurf  
#11 Posted : 06 March 2012 10:48:59(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Most of my fainters have been young ladies who haven't been eating properly/(at all).
m  
#12 Posted : 06 March 2012 12:49:51(UTC)
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m

Graham Bullough wrote:

p.s. M - some forum users might wonder if you are really the fabled head of the special intelligence service alias MI6 and using OS&H as a subterfuge. However, if you are, you’re unlikely to admit to it - and any denial of course might simply be regarded as a perpetuation of such subterfuge! :-)


I never comment on unsubstantiated rumours!
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