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ctd167  
#1 Posted : 05 March 2012 15:49:01(UTC)
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ctd167

I've been asked to look at providing some in house training on environmental awareness, nothing too in-depth, just something to give everyone an overview. Anyone know where i can source some information ( hopefully free)?
Williamx  
#2 Posted : 05 March 2012 16:35:32(UTC)
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Williamx

Hi There's loads of free basic advice on the NetRegs/Business Link website. http://www.businesslink....n&topicId=1079068363 William
Graham Bullough  
#3 Posted : 05 March 2012 17:41:35(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

ctd167 - Unless environmental matters are clearly part of your work remit, some forum users including myself may well wonder why you are being asked to give an in-house presentation on this topic. As a general wry observation from experience it's evident that some people perceive that the OS&H remit also includes any other work fields (e.g. counselling, claims handling, disability rights, environmental stuff, occupational health, even animal welfare - anyone got any other suggestions?) which they can dump on OS&H specialists. By its wide nature based on different disciplines (the posh adjective for this is 'eclectic') OS&H will inevitably overlap at times with the other work areas mentioned. However, in such circumstances, it's appropriate for OS&H people to let others know they are going outside their speciality in order to dispel misperceptions about OS&H. Indicating the margins or rather peripheral zones of one's training, knowledge and expertise is surely a demonstration of professional competence. ctd167 - in your own case, relevant factors can include who is asking you to give the in-house training, to whom and why. Also, if you intend to expand into environmental matters, perhaps to widen your career prospects with organisations wanting SHE or SHEF type advisers, finding out more from others (e.g. via your posting on this forum), giving basic training/information and developing practical experience is obviously appropriate - subject to awareness by you and others of your limitations. Hopefully, this paragraph is positive even though my opening question above might at first appear negative. As with so many of the topics discussed on this forum, the important phrase is "it depends on the circumstances".
boblewis  
#4 Posted : 05 March 2012 22:26:48(UTC)
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boblewis

The intention of such training is to provide an overview of the environmental policy etc and it is to this that you should refer for topics. If you are not familiar with this then may I commend Grahams thoughts to you. Bob
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 05 March 2012 23:18:31(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Graham, you might want to cast a wry and critical eye over the current IOSH Managing Safely Course, which also contains a significant module on environmental management. There is of course a health/ safety risk vector from poor management of emissions or waste disposal (essentially enshrined in the tenents of the HASAWA), and therefore some logic in H&S practitioners embracing the concept. Competence in delivering training etc. on the topic another matter of course...........I do tend to side with you on this.
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 06 March 2012 08:38:22(UTC)
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bob youel

My advice is to get somebody in as such areas do creep from an awareness training session [the word training is also wrong in my view] situation to people believing that its a competent advice training session with all the repercussions that can come with it
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 06 March 2012 10:38:58(UTC)
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boblewis

Bob A man after my own heart - awareness and training are bad bedfellows. The purpose of any environmental awareness sessions is to inform people of what the company requires from its employees and what policies etc the company has. Once these are established one can then identify the materials available to assist in the awareness process. One cannot simply pull stuff out of the air so to speak unless one is trying to encourage environmental actions in some way - but even then you have defined an end objective. Without a company environmental policy and procedures any sessions are pure hot air and a wasste of time unless floated under a Corporate Social Responsibility flag; which is a separate issue altogether. Bob
ctd167  
#8 Posted : 06 March 2012 16:01:47(UTC)
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ctd167

Excellent discussion guys with a variety of points well made. As a H&S practitioner, I agree, we are all 'requested' to tickle other subjects from time to time which fall outside our remit because there's no one else in the company who can present or communicate a message like we can. In this case, I think Bob Lewis has hit the nail on the head with his comments. I intend to communicate the companies Environmental Policy, written in line with its CSR, to all personal and if it needs escalating, outsourcing further requirements sounds best. Thanks everyone for your input.
chris42  
#9 Posted : 07 March 2012 09:22:36(UTC)
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chris42

Training (management and provision), Quality assurance systems (ISO9001), Environmental Management systems (ISO14001), Responsibility for any other organisation accreditation's /associations (ie Link up, and other specific industry sector accreditation's / associations that are audited), customer liaison, works tour guide for customers /schools etc. Gone are the days that, you just dealt with H&S, are expected to be Jack of all trades and master of them all too. Like other posters, I provided all the employees awareness information, based on our policy and specifically highlighted the environmental impact of each of the raw materials we used and wastes we produced. I reiterated the necessity for segregation of wastes and the system we were introducing. I announced the intention to set up an environmental improvement working committee comprising employees across the whole company and we were looking for volunteers. I found employees quite receptive to environmental issues, as those with children had already been getting this message from them. I also found once the implementation of a proper management system and dissemination this awareness information had been completed, it seemed to have a beneficial effect on H&S attitude.
Graham Bullough  
#10 Posted : 07 March 2012 19:26:49(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Several aspects of my final paragraph at #3 stem from having an environmental matter (mainly investigation rather than training) thrust upon me in the mid-1990s. Several incidents involving spillages of heating oil during deliveries had occurred at different premises operated by my local authority employer. The final one was by far the most serious and had resulted in oil getting into a local river. Though no humans had been harmed, numerous fish had died and there was a good likelihood that the Environment Agency (EA) would prosecute. At the behest of our then chief executive, I investigated and reported on what factors had caused the incidents and advised on how to prevent further ones. (It didn’t seem a good idea to say ‘no - not my remit’ to someone like a chief executive; better to say something like ‘yes, not quite my speciality but will give it a go!' ) The investigation looked at both human and hardware aspects, just as in many OS&H investigations, and readily identified a number of deficiencies. These included oil being ordered and delivered in litre quantities for old tanks which had gauges marked in gallons. Also some gauges hadn’t worked for years, so caretakers had to guess how much oil to order. Some premises had different filler points for different tanks but no identification plates. Moreover, there was nothing to prevent tanker drivers from arriving unannounced and connecting up without local supervision to any filler point of their choice. (this aspect bore some similarity to the highly publicised incident in 1988 in which aluminium sulphate was added to the wrong tank by a delivery contractor at a water treatment works at Camelford in Cornwall.) Also, tanker drivers could set their tankers to pump a pre-set amount of oil and then go off for a cigarette or sit in their cabs to catch up on paperwork. The final incident stemmed partly from poor design of pipework for 2 large tanks, including the fact that their overflow/vent pipes had been located on the opposite side of the building to the filler point/s. Thus, oil intended for an empty tank got wrongly pumped into a nearly full tank during a late winter afternoon (after daylight had gone) nobody became aware of the major spillage until daylight next day. Measures suggested to prevent further incidents included simple and mostly low-cost ones like devising gallon-litre conversion charts for caretakers, fixing or replacing defective gauges, and labelling filler points and fitting them with simple lockable covers. Where overflow/vent pipes were not readily visible to people at the filler points and could not be suitably re-located, overflow alarm devices were suggested. My report mentioned that some people had unfairly blamed overworked caretakers and/or tanker drivers rather than identify elements of poor design, defective understanding and sloppy management. Its introduction included the fact that the investigation had been based on OS&H principles & practice which had proved readily transferable to the environmental and related issues involved. Anyhow, the chief executive seemed pleased with the report. This probably helped to raise the standing of OS&H with him and also gain a useful ally for support when needed regarding significant OS&H matters thereafter.
blodwyn  
#11 Posted : 08 March 2012 09:44:26(UTC)
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blodwyn

Like others have said environmental matters are not always that simple. If it is not an area you are familiar with I would see how far you can deliver yourself, always good to have to research - and if they expect something more detailed decline gracefully and suggest you get someone in to help you. Sure you can deliver a bunch of slides but the problems come if there are questions and the depth of response required. Also there is always a smarty pants in the audience who will know more about it than you and ask the killer question - which if you are a bit unsure knocks your credibility in front of your colleagues. My first degree is Environmental Science and I've been involved in the E element of HS&E since I left the HSE in the late 90s, and never fail to be amazed how complex environmental matters can become. Go for it!! Research - deliver a presentation you are comfortable with , and who knows you might get new job responsibilbilites out of it when you do such a brilliant job - as clearly there is a gap!!!!
Graham Bullough  
#12 Posted : 08 March 2012 15:49:36(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Good advice from Blodwyn earlier today. Also, to answer my question in response #3, other work fields which sometimes get added to OS&H work include security and, for public sector practitioners, civil resilience alias planning for & management of local/regional civil emergencies. Additional work fields are fine for OS&H professionals who willing accept them and either have or get appropriate training and develop experience, but not if imposed/dumped upon them. Note: only one paragraph in this response so as to avoid over-stretching the attention spans of some forum users! :-)
Citizen Smith  
#13 Posted : 08 March 2012 21:36:31(UTC)
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Citizen Smith

Ctd167 I've PM'd you some info..
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