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CW1969  
#1 Posted : 08 March 2012 09:47:30(UTC)
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CW1969

I have recently been asked to look in to implementing drug and alcohol testing within my organisation, I work for a construction company operating large mobile plant, as well as employees we use a lot of contractors which also would require inclusion. I understand some of the implications and know I will need a clear policy on this issue.
Any help from people who have implemented such a system or who has any further knowledge.

Thanks in anticipation.
blodwyn  
#2 Posted : 08 March 2012 10:39:26(UTC)
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blodwyn

There are a lot of implications and it is very hard work to implement such a process. But worth doing well.
My first piece of advice is liaise with the unions as soon as you can - as their support is essential to sell it to their members.
I have implemented this in a number of organisations but always hand in hand with HR (I've ensured they have been involved as usually it would be their policy). In addition if you have an occupational health service then also get them involved right at the start.
Firstly you need to look at why you are doing it? Do you have strong evidence to suggest that your employees are coming into work under the influence? For example risk assessments? Do you have accident/near miss data to support this. Hearsay is not strong enough!!!!!!
You need to think about if you want to do fore cause testing, or random tests - this is significant. You need to look at who will 'do' these tests - will you be training in house employees or getting a contractor to do them for you. What type of tests will you do? Confidentiality?
These are just a few of the things you need to consider and whilst it is hard work, difficult and contentious do not let that put you off if you have good reasoning in place because it is worth it - we caught a guy who was driving a big FLT who tested positive for heroin and alcohol - which made all the pain worth it! But also remember you need HR to have in place the procedure of what to do with someone if they do present as positive - you cant just sack them....But you knew that anyway!
Contractors are a lot harder to implement - there is a lot of leg work to do with their employers, and it often happens that once such a process is implemented people do walk away from the company and that also has happened in my experience.

PM me if you need any more assistance such as partner companies. Good luck
Blod
NR  
#3 Posted : 08 March 2012 14:49:29(UTC)
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NR

Firstly you need to look at why you are doing it? Do you have strong evidence to suggest that your employees are coming into work under the influence? For example risk assessments? Do you have accident/near miss data to support this. Hearsay is not strong enough!!!!!!"

Why wait until you have had accidents. Be pro-active. Society trends supported by Government evidence can demonstrate wide spread use of drugs and alcohol (at work).

We have a fleet of vehicles where it was introduced. No positives to date which is great. Even if only acting as a deterrent it's worked a treat.

It took 18 months to implement due to a consultation period and the changing of contractual T & C's
jde  
#4 Posted : 09 March 2012 09:05:42(UTC)
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jde

as someone who introduced a new alcohol / drugs policy 3 years ago due to concerns that their was abuse of illegal substances by certain operatives, it is essential that the policy wording is suitably drafted to ensure the checks can either be , Random sampling, Just Cause, post incident. This gives you the scope for most occasions. It is important that the workforce are informed of the upcoming changes and there should be consultation. Ensure there is good HR input, as they will be involved heavily if there are positive test results. There is a good safety case for having the tests, particularly were plant / equipment is concerned. Unfortunately, some people will not take the help offered when caught and invariably there is a parting of the way. You need to consider the type of testing you wish to conduct and ensure there is a clearly defined process at all stages. Good luck.
achrn  
#5 Posted : 09 March 2012 10:06:56(UTC)
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achrn

Blodwyn wrote:

Firstly you need to look at why you are doing it? Do you have strong evidence to suggest that your employees are coming into work under the influence? For example risk assessments? Do you have accident/near miss data to support this. Hearsay is not strong enough!!!!!!


I don't understand this comment - surely risk assessments and strong evidence that people are under the influence are completely different things - risk assessments are not an example of evidence that they are under the influence.

Is it not a case of evidence and/or risk assessment? That is, if your risk assessment identifies a sufficiently high hazard you'd not need evidence to implement random testing. If you have a moderate or low hazard, then you might decide you won't test unless there's evidence as well.

The other issue to consider is there might be statutory obligations to have D&A controls including testing - for example if the work is rail related and affects the safety of the railway system (Transport and Works Act).
Bob Shillabeer  
#6 Posted : 09 March 2012 13:17:50(UTC)
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Bob Shillabeer

Following several quite high profile accidents on the railway in this country a random drugs and alcohol precess was introduced nation wide. This involved the Unions in developing the process and uses external testers who are available through a call to thier office at very short notice. This is applied to every person working on the railway be they employees or contractors and even visitor. Perhaps you can get details from the various websites or through someone who currently works within the industry, sorry cant provide it myself as I have left the raikl industry and am not sure the current processes.
johnmurray  
#7 Posted : 09 March 2012 20:00:13(UTC)
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johnmurray

Network Rail Alcohol & Drug testing
Title: Network Rail Alcohol & Drug Testing
Caution: Failure to bring any of the required items will result in cancellation of the appointment.
If you fail to attend then the full charge will be applicable.
What you must bring with you: • Photographic I.D (Passport or Driving Licence)
• Proof of National Insurance Number.
• Any prescribed medicines or drugs taken within the past 14 days.
Duration: 15-20 minutes
Information about the testing: Alcohol will be measured using a Home Office approved breath analyser.
The testing machine has an immediate print out of results.
Drugs will be tested by urine using full chain of custody.

We will test your urine under strict conditions for Alcohol and Drugs. The nurse or collection officer will ask you about any medication you have been taking including over-the-counter medicines.
You will be required to produce identification a passport, photo driving licence, CIS card or PTS card.
Two samples of urine are collected, sealed under your supervision and sent to an approved laboratory.
If one sample is positive you have the right to have the second sample tested at a different approved laboratory (a charge will be made by the second laboratory.)

If you fail a A&D test this will exclude you from the railway for a period of at least 5 years.

The Laboratory will test for alcohol and the following drugs:
• Alcohol
• Amphetamines
• Barbiturates
• Benzodiazepines
• Cannabis
• Cocaine
• Methadone
• Opiates
• Propoxyphene
• MDMA (Ecstasy)

Further information will be given at the time of your examination/urine test.
Please feel free to discuss or ask any questions with the nurse or collection officer.

They also have history of calling employees in from days off.

"Under section 27 of the Transport & Works Act it is an offense for rail employees to carry out, and railway employers to allow employees to carry out, safety critical work while under the influence of drugs or alcohol"

Oh, and false positives are rife.
Loads of over-the-counter drugs give positive results.

Dronabinol (Marinol)
Ibuprofen; (Advil, Nuprin, Motrin, Excedrin IB etc)
Ketoprofen (Orudis KT)
Kidney infection (Kidney disease, diabetes) Liver Disease
Naproxen (Aleve)
Promethazine (Phenergan, Promethegan)
Riboflavin (B2, Hempseed Oil)

Amphetamines - Substances or Conditions which can cause false positives
Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine
(Nyquil, Contact, Sudafed, Allerest, Tavist-D, Dimetapp, etc)
Phenegan-D, Robitussin Cold and Flu, Vicks Nyquil
Over-the-counter diet aids with phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim, Accutrim)
Over-the-counter nasal sprays (Vicks inhaler, Afrin)
Asthma medications (Marax, Bronkaid tablets, Primatine Tablets)
Prescription medications (Amfepramone, Cathne, Etafediabe, Morazone,phendimetrazine, phenmetrazine, benzphetamine, fenfluramine, dexfenfluramine,dexdenfluramine,Redux, mephentermine, Mesocarb, methoxyphenamine, phentermine,amineptine, Pholedrine, hydroymethamphetamine, Dexedrine, amifepramone, clobenzorex,fenproyorex, mefenorex, fenelylline, Didrex, dextroamphetamine, methphenidate, Ritalin,pemoline, Cylert, selegiline, Deprenyl, Eldepryl, Famprofazone) Kidney infection, kidney disease, Liver disease, diabetes

Opiates - Substances or Conditions which can cause false positives
Poppy Seeds
Tylenol with codeine
Most prescription pain medications
Cough suppressants with Dextromethorphan (DXM)
Nyquil
Kidney infection, Kidney Disease
Diabetes, Liver Disease

Ecstacy - Substances or Conditions which can cause false positives
Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine
(Nyquil, Contact, Sudafed, Allerest, Tavist-D, Dimetapp, etc)
Phenegan-D, Robitussin Cold and Flu, Vicks Nyquil
Over-the-counter diet aids with phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim, Accutrim)
Over-the-counter nasal sprays (Vicks inhaler, Afrin)
Asthma medications (Marax, Bronkaid tablets, Primatine Tablets)
Prescription medications (Amfepramone, Cathne, Etafediabe, Morazone,phendimetrazine, phenmetrazine, benzphetamine, fenfluramine, dexfenfluramine, dexdenfluramine,Redux, mephentermine, Mesocarb, methoxyphenamine, phentermine, amineptine, Pholedrine, hydroymethamphetamine, Dexedrine, amifepramone, clobenzorex, fenproyorex, mefenorex, fenelylline, Didrex, dextroamphetamine, methphenidate, Ritalin, pemoline, Cylert, selegiline, Deprenyl, Eldepryl, Famprofazone) Kidney infection, kidney disease
Liver disease, diabetes

Cocaine - Substances or Conditions which can cause false positives
Kidney infection (kidney disease)
Liver infection (liver disease)
Diabetes
Amoxicillin, tonic water (quinine)
Grant1962  
#8 Posted : 10 March 2012 00:03:03(UTC)
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Grant1962

Drug & Alcohol random testing is common place for high risk and safety critical evolutions, but ask yourself this question: why do the HSE not have random testing policy? Because the evidence provides inconclusive or contradictory results against the suitability of drug & Alcohol testing.

This information was provided by a senior HSE Inspector working in the HsL
NLivesey  
#9 Posted : 10 March 2012 00:40:05(UTC)
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NLivesey

I think the statement that "false positives are rife" gives a poor impression of how reliable D&A screening actually is. In over 20 years I've only heard of 1 case where the results were challenged and it was subsequently found that an over the counter product caused the positive result.

D&A screening has been a standard in the railway industry for a considerable number of years and overall it works. Everyone knows that if you're found to test positive you're out and will be lucky to get back in (5 years is the minimum but I'd be surprised if anyone took the risk knowing the history).

This type of screening is becoming more popular throughout all types of workplaces and it is worth considering where you want to ensure sobriety of the workforce during working hours, especially in potentially high risk environments. It is worth doing and when done correctly will have a beneficial effect, both with the workforce and also in terms of reduction in insurance policies. Just make sure that the policy is implemented correctly, communicated to the staff clearly and that the policy takes into account those who may have substance abuse problems (i.e. write in a section that ensures those who come forward asking for help with an addiction are not unjustly descriminated against).
messyshaw  
#10 Posted : 10 March 2012 09:06:00(UTC)
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messyshaw

I was talking about drug testing recently and came across a workplace test which involves cutting a length of hair for testing, as examining slices of hair provides a longer & more accurate history of abuse than a urine sample. For instance it will give an approximate time when someone took a particular drug and not just that they have used it.

Does anyone know of, or use this test - and if so, how does it compare with urine tests in terms of the length of historic data it provides?
wood1e  
#11 Posted : 10 March 2012 09:39:21(UTC)
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wood1e

With regard to false positives, I have never had one in the 5 years I have been actively involved with testing. Generally when analysed with hplc or gc you will find trace elements of other substances that you would not find in a prescribed, medical pharmaceutical product. The signature looks a lot different and some pharmacuitcals have a specific element that can be identified.
With sampling kits, immunoassay type product the cut off level for detection is higher than over the counter medicines.
These are the reason why proper donor consent and declaration of medications are important, also in policy ensure that any medications being taken must be declared and assessed for impairment, risk assessed for the task.
Anyhow putting the technical detail aside, the hse would take a view on management of substance abuse if impairment was part of an accident, or worse still found at autopsy.
All the positives I have dealt with have never challenged when presented with the evidence, and often at the point of test have explained there use.
Policy advise is available from numerous occ health / testing organisations. With regard to contractors ensure they are made are at contract, induction and propaganda on site, simply your only action with someone not I your employ is to exclude them from your site for action under the employers policy, therefore at pre-contract ensure their employer has a suitable D&A policy.
wood1e  
#12 Posted : 10 March 2012 10:33:49(UTC)
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wood1e

Apologies for the typos, big fingers small phone.
Forgot to say hair sampling is a method but it is a very expensive one. Generally it is only used for long term reference, for example an employee reports to the employer they have a drug problem, not at time of testing, the employer should then offer the employee support, rehab. Then a condition of continued employment post treatment may be continual monitoring. It would not be reasonable to test the employee every day or so therefore hair may be used to analyse trace elements to prove no repeat of the previous addiction.
Again we come back to policy and HR input.
CW1969  
#13 Posted : 12 March 2012 10:21:50(UTC)
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CW1969

Thanks for all the replies, does any one have a copy of their D&A Policy i can take a look at ?

Thanks
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