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Brett L Greenwood  
#1 Posted : 12 March 2012 17:03:00(UTC)
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Brett L Greenwood

Hi All Just have a quick question. If you have a work experience child who by the definition on HSE is a child as there under the age of 16 can they work with coffee machines? Cheers B
Brett L Greenwood  
#2 Posted : 12 March 2012 17:14:08(UTC)
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Brett L Greenwood

orry the coffee machine in question is not a normal one from a canteen it is a barista one like in Starbucks
Ken Slack  
#3 Posted : 13 March 2012 11:01:06(UTC)
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Ken Slack

Hi Brett, Take a look at the HSE guidance about young people and catering: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/cais21.pdf There is no legal reason why they shouldnt, but you would need to carry out a risk assessment and take into account the hazards and the young persons physical and psychological ability, alongside sufficient training and appropriate supervision..
Carol B  
#4 Posted : 13 March 2012 12:56:43(UTC)
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Carol B

My daughter did 2 weeks work experience in 2 different cafés when she was 15, the first week she was allowed to do everything that the permanent members of staff did, she really enjoyed the experience and it gave her a taste of working life, the second week she was only allowed to clean tables due to "health and safety" she hated it and learnt nothing from it. Work experience is supposed to give kids an insight into real life, and properly managed should be a good experience for them and the employers, if they can't do the full range of tasks (within reason) is it worth taking them on in the first place
Safety Smurf  
#5 Posted : 13 March 2012 13:16:09(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

As with all things there will be good examples and bad ones. I did work experience twice, the first time was at school, the second at college. The first time was with a motorcycle dealership. I was fortunate in that dealership took on more than one student and I got to do my work experience with a friend. Being a bit more of a risk taker than I, he persuaded one of the mechanics to let him ride pillion on a trials bike down a dirt track one lunchtime. The bike flipped and my friend ended up becoming a human sled for about 20 yrds. His mother went nuts because I tried to stick him back together with strip plaster (it was all I had on me). The second time, I was working in a hanger in a local museum (one which has a very long pointy white fast thing). The defunct ticket office was a studwork room in the corner of said hanger. I was up on top of it standing on the joists, kicking in the ceiling when I slipped.......legs either side of a beam...... Luckily, I was a lot lighter, fitter and faster back then and managed close my legs fast enough to use my inner thighs as brakes pads and was lucky to get away with bruising and grazes.
Brett L Greenwood  
#6 Posted : 13 March 2012 23:27:12(UTC)
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Brett L Greenwood

Smurf cracking examples carol i would question that as HSE states any one under msla cant do certain jobs and thanks Ken as I wasnt able to find this and it was a real help Regards B
HPhillips  
#7 Posted : 14 March 2012 08:52:23(UTC)
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HPhillips

The ACOP to MHSWR is useful to this: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l21.pdf
Cooper103721  
#8 Posted : 14 March 2012 12:21:31(UTC)
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Cooper103721

I was a Work Experience H & S Co-ord for a while and I would allow the students to operate the coffee machine and toastie machine providing the employer had completed a risk assessment and also looked at the height of the student and the worksurface they were working from. We did once have a small student that tried to operate a coffee machine but kept getting splashed in the face, so the employer got her to do some other jobs.
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