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I have been asked by a number of staff, who have been sent the link below, whether forthcoming new style safety sign standards means that old signs have to be changed. My initial reaction is that it is just another marketing ploy by sign manufacturers but before I reassure our staff that their existing signs are OK and that they do not need changing retrospectively because of a supposed change in 'the law' I would welcome some reassurance myself. Any comments......
http://www.seton.co.uk/I...ysignslegislation-EN7010
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Hi Chas
Reading the proposal there are a lot of "may" and "could" in the text so until this actually comes to be a "norm" then we will not know the impact , however especially in the light of the current goal of the government to adopt common sense , I would say that we would not be rushing around to change all of our safety signs for new similar looking ones.
Regards Dave
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I have also been asked this today!
I believe that the approach has to be that all existing signs will remain until they need to be replaced due to wear and tear, fading in sunlight etc. and then new design signs will be affixed.
Similarly, any first time new signs should meet the changed designs right away.
The unnecessary cost to industry for am immediate change I think would be unacceptable.
Just my thoughts, anyway!
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Hi Chas,
I agree with Dave; this is a marketing ploy. Given this government's obsession with denigrating all things related to health and safety, I cannot honestly imagine them bringing in Regulations to force businesses to change all of their safety signs. I certainly will not be advising any Client to change theirs ('cause I don't own shares in a sign making business!)
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Standards are not legislation!
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This is a quote from the Seton sales pitch:
"The BSI will need to determine how this is interpreted within UK Law"
Bizarre!
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I'm a little disappointed with this companies sales pitch attitude and very much doubt this method will make any significant sales increase?
When I receive such drivel I usually talk with my feet!
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I sacked this company from my catalogue shelf when they put out misleading advertising about the need to change the HSE law posters for the new ones.
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We must be ahead of the curve - I was asked about this back in June!
My understanding (as in June, I haven't revisited it in detail)
ISO 7010: ‘Graphical symbols - Safety colours and safety signs - Registered safety signs’ was originally published in 2003. Now, in addition to being recently updated, it's about to be adopted as a legally required standard across Europe and will be known as PrEN7010. British Standard BS5499:2002 Graphical Symbols and Signs was used as the basis for ISO 7010. This means that the UK should get off pretty lightly when it comes to changes needed. However, there are two main types of emergency exit route and final exit signs in use in the UK. The first is based on the designs shown in the BS and the other commonly known as the ‘Euro-sign’ is based on the designs shown in the EEC Directive (EEC/92/58). The new PrEN7010 will probably mandate the BS-style sign rather than the Euro-sign.
[White angular man with both knees bent running towards a white rectangle is the Euro-sign. Green man with curved elbows and one knee straight running through a white rectangle is the BS sign.]
From the page linked, I note the statement that "Best practice will be to follow the latest safety sign guidance and therefore symbols will need to be updated." That pretty much confirms that there's no actual requirement to change. A change would need to be mandated by a revision to Health and Safety (Safety
Signs and Signals) Regulations 1996, and even if it did get revised I'd expect a transition period measured in years - look at the length of transition on the health and safety law poster.
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As far as we are aware there is no intention for signs to be retro-fitted. In other words, the signs you currently have in place will be fine to carry on using. I guess that once it does become an EN then any new signs bought after the change in Standard will mean you'll need to comply with the the EN 7010. We have been recommending that the Euro-sign (as mentioned by achrn above) be replaced as a matter of course anyway as comprehension levels have been proven to be poor in comarison to the BS / 7010 version.
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I have just binned the Seton catalogue
We do not need this sort of marketing in the H&S business
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