Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
wil2511  
#1 Posted : 25 February 2012 10:34:04(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

I am wondering would anyone know the best place to gain work experience for a month or two? I would like gain some experience working in the civilian sector and shadow Health & Safety adviser in construction or manufacturing or any industry for free I'm just looking for experience? Many thanks
Hughmaxwell  
#2 Posted : 25 February 2012 11:42:26(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Hughmaxwell

Where are you located Will?
wil2511  
#3 Posted : 25 February 2012 11:54:46(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

From the north west (congleton)
Ben Baldwin  
#4 Posted : 27 February 2012 20:12:25(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
Ben Baldwin

Will, Are you a serving Royal Engineer? If so you could get in touch with me and I may be able to provide an avenue. What qualifications do you have? Please get in touch with me and I will try and give advice. I am presently serving in the Army, responsible for Operational Safety and Health & Safety for the Army. Regards, Ben
wil2511  
#5 Posted : 28 February 2012 19:46:12(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Thanks Ben
wil2511  
#6 Posted : 02 March 2012 09:51:01(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Sorry a few months maybe a bit much for people, a week or a few days would be just as great many thanks .
JJ Prendergast  
#7 Posted : 03 March 2012 12:18:59(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
JJ Prendergast

Not trying to annoy you but ...You don't have to keep making the point you are ex HM Forces. Some do, but many civilian employers aren't fussed, don't care and don't understand what you did. Leave it for your CV and any interviews you get. They simply want the best guy for the job at the best price. Welcome to civvy street Yes I'm ex too - but which service is irrelevant, as its a while ago and I have the h&s experience not too bother mentioning it. Get used to the fact you are 'ex' HM Forces. There is more to life than wearing a green romper suit and living in holes in the ground. I run my own consultancy, but unfortunately don't have any extra work at present
wil2511  
#8 Posted : 03 March 2012 13:20:40(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

I'm still serving as it goes and it doesnt harm anyone to give a little back ground information and the reason I mention it is in a little way hope that someone who was serving might think I'll help him out. I cant really see what the problem is with saying I'm serving or ex. If it helps it helps if it doesn't no harm done is there? Thanks for your post all the same tho.
Williamx  
#9 Posted : 03 March 2012 14:12:02(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Williamx

JJ Prendergast wrote:
There is more to life than wearing a green romper suit and living in holes in the ground.
Yeah, wearing a blue romper suit and living in a steel floating box ;)
JJ Prendergast  
#10 Posted : 03 March 2012 14:53:08(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
JJ Prendergast

There isn't a particular problem mentioning your current/past employer. Just don't expect to open as many doors as you might have been told on re-settlement courses.
GaryB  
#11 Posted : 03 March 2012 15:03:24(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
GaryB

Hi, I may be able to help you for some of the time, if you can send me some contact details.
wil2511  
#12 Posted : 04 March 2012 09:10:22(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Thanks for all the advice
TonyWhit  
#13 Posted : 12 March 2012 21:47:36(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
TonyWhit

JJ Prendergast wrote:
Not trying to annoy you but ...You don't have to keep making the point you are ex HM Forces. Some do, but many civilian employers aren't fussed, don't care and don't understand what you did. Leave it for your CV and any interviews you get. They simply want the best guy for the job at the best price. Welcome to civvy street Yes I'm ex too - but which service is irrelevant, as its a while ago and I have the h&s experience not too bother mentioning it. Get used to the fact you are 'ex' HM Forces. There is more to life than wearing a green romper suit and living in holes in the ground. I run my own consultancy, but unfortunately don't have any extra work at present
Not one constructive bit of advice in that reply. It is a difficult time for anyone leaving the forces as it is a massive adjustment to civilian life. A bit of encouragement goes a long way! Wil, good effort in trying to get some experience. I am based in Runcorn at a large manufacturing plant and if you would like to visit site and have a chat you are more than welcome. Just PM me.
wil2511  
#14 Posted : 16 March 2012 14:48:53(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Thanks tony that would be a huge help.
008  
#15 Posted : 17 March 2012 23:06:00(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
008

Just like to add to the unhelpful advice. I am ex service and proud of it, and so should you be, don't let anybody dampen your enthusiasm. as a matter of interest, I have a team of 8 Safety professionals, 3 of which are ex servicemen, 2 ex Royal Engineers. further, the business I work for, employs many ex servicemen, at some sites upto 60% are ex service. Luckily I am from the master service, RAF and we never dug into any holes, only checked into hotels..... your welcome to contact me, my business covers the UK and I could help.
008  
#16 Posted : 17 March 2012 23:08:39(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
008

Just like to add comment on the unhelpful advice given earlier I am ex service and proud of it, and so should you be, don't let anybody dampen your enthusiasm. as a matter of interest, I have a team of 8 Safety professionals, 3 of which are ex servicemen, 2 ex Royal Engineers. further, the business I work for, employs many ex servicemen, at some sites upto 60% are ex service. Luckily I am from the master service, RAF and we never dug into any holes, only checked into hotels..... your welcome to contact me, my business covers the UK and I could help.
ExDeeps  
#17 Posted : 18 March 2012 11:59:55(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
ExDeeps

Wil, First some useful advice - if you're not already on LinkedIn I would thoroughly recomend it as a networking resource. You'll be amazed at who you can find from years back, what they're doing now and the links they can help you to forge with others. Now, to join in the service banter; "There is more to life than wearing a green romper suit and living in holes in the ground". JJ Prendergast "Yeah, wearing a blue romper suit and living in a steel floating box ;)" William X "Luckily I am from the master service, RAF and we never dug into any holes, only checked into hotels" 008 ME ExDeeps = Wearing a blue romper suit, living in a steel tube that sinks AND staying in Hotels..! Oh, and 008, the Airforce has not been around long enough to develope any traditions just habits so cannot by any stretch of the imagination be the "Master Service" ;-) Jim
wil2511  
#18 Posted : 18 March 2012 16:47:15(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Thanks for the advice I'm on LinkedIn already thanks and I am trying to avoid the army banter as to anyone none military will just think it's stupid and pointless and maybe unprofessional. I appreciate all your tips and advice but if we can keep in work related and not military I think that would be a great help.
ExDeeps  
#19 Posted : 18 March 2012 22:58:25(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
ExDeeps

Wil, I feel I should apologise, I didn't intend to crayon all over your thread, it was a slow morning, and I just thought I could add a bit of colour whilst trying to pass on a little bit of advice. How wrong I was. Good luck with your transition to Civilian Employment, Jim
bob youel  
#20 Posted : 19 March 2012 07:58:41(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
bob youel

Get to your local construction group [Manchester- Eccles] Tuesday PM meetings if you can & the IOSH evening meetings held in the evening [Manchester - Monton] also on a Tuesday; they are very supportive and can also lead you to other groups You should be able to get contact details from this site and the web; Never disregard your RE experience as its invaluable in many ways but dont expect civies to understand and remember that in civy street people do not want to go with the flow as they like to do their own things and in my view management is generally poor Best of luck and REgards
wil2511  
#21 Posted : 21 March 2012 22:34:55(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Exdeeps it's no problem it just last time I got slated for it so this time I want to get the advice from all members. Bob thanks for that advice I'll be heading of home for a couple of weeks so I can go to them then. Many thanks for all the help
CliveLowery  
#22 Posted : 22 March 2012 11:15:04(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
CliveLowery

Ian, as Bob said never forget where you came from and remember the definitions of "Ubique"! How did you get on with the CV writing and converting the transferable skills etc. I Got given a book by my Son-In-Law the other day "Signals", regarding CV Writing and Interview Techniques, on the same lines as the CTP stuff you get issued but more concise and relevant. I can send you a copy if you want - let me know. REgards Clive
wil2511  
#23 Posted : 24 March 2012 10:33:54(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Hi Clive , I have done my CV and that's in good shape and thanks to a some of the guys on the forum have had a look at it and gave me some pointers so that's good and as for that book I have something similar I think. Nothing better than the first interview to shake of the nerves to be honest
bob youel  
#24 Posted : 27 March 2012 16:16:03(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
bob youel

get on your bike [literally] and knock on doors e.g. around local industrial estates to start with - the wider you cast your net the better chance of catching something REgards NB: I have been using REgards instead of Regards for some years now and I note that others are starting to do the same -its a way of sappers helping Sappers as I see it!
Betta Spenden  
#25 Posted : 27 March 2012 19:16:11(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Betta Spenden

NB: I have been using REgards instead of Regards for some years now and I note that others are starting to do the same -its a way of sappers helping Sappers as I see it!
And theres me thinking it was just ex brown jobs and their two finger typos.
wil2511  
#26 Posted : 11 April 2012 08:11:42(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

I'm almost due to leave my current position and I have been busy looking for work but yet no joy is there anything more I can do than NEBOSH to make a future employer want to bring me in for an interview? I have done NEBOSH part 1 general certificate ( part 2 completed by June) , NEBOSH enviroental and iosh managing safely any advice would be fantastic.
DEC1888  
#27 Posted : 11 April 2012 09:28:02(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
DEC1888

Will. we`re also in the worst recession for years, highly qualified and experienced people are struggling to get work, and when the do its usually for a fraction of what the are worth, bad times
alexmccreadie13  
#28 Posted : 11 April 2012 09:51:00(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
alexmccreadie13

It is a very hard world out here at the moment. I was notified of my redundancy with 6 months notice. I started looking joining recruitment sites and everything else you can do. Fortunately an ex boss found out and contacted me and I started the new job immediately after my redundancy date. £15,000 pound less a year than what I was on but at 62 I was happy to take it. So everyone keep trying it is not easy but in some cases it pays off. Good luck Alex Yes ex REME and proud of it.
AllanFS  
#29 Posted : 11 April 2012 09:53:46(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
AllanFS

Will. Keep in there mate. I,m "EX-SERVICES" and it helps a long way to mention it as I,ve found in the past in interviews etc as a lot of safety people come from a military background. There is positions out there but getting them is the problem especially in your position. Good luck
wil2511  
#30 Posted : 11 April 2012 20:42:14(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Thanks very much, I know it's hard out there at the moment I'm just glad I still have my job for a couple of more months yet. I have tried to get work experience for a week or two but its just a none starter, I guess it's more studying and see what the future holds.
Dimond36742  
#31 Posted : 25 April 2012 09:37:32(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Dimond36742

ExDeeps wrote:
Wil, First some useful advice - if you're not already on LinkedIn I would thoroughly recomend it as a networking resource. You'll be amazed at who you can find from years back, what they're doing now and the links they can help you to forge with others. Now, to join in the service banter; "There is more to life than wearing a green romper suit and living in holes in the ground". JJ Prendergast "Yeah, wearing a blue romper suit and living in a steel floating box ;)" William X "Luckily I am from the master service, RAF and we never dug into any holes, only checked into hotels" 008 ME ExDeeps = Wearing a blue romper suit, living in a steel tube that sinks AND staying in Hotels..! Oh, and 008, the Airforce has not been around long enough to develope any traditions just habits so cannot by any stretch of the imagination be the "Master Service" ;-) Jim
Dimond36742  
#32 Posted : 25 April 2012 09:38:41(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Dimond36742

Dimond36742 wrote:
ExDeeps wrote:
Wil, First some useful advice - if you're not already on LinkedIn I would thoroughly recomend it as a networking resource. You'll be amazed at who you can find from years back, what they're doing now and the links they can help you to forge with others. Now, to join in the service banter; "There is more to life than wearing a green romper suit and living in holes in the ground". JJ Prendergast "Yeah, wearing a blue romper suit and living in a steel floating box ;)" William X "Luckily I am from the master service, RAF and we never dug into any holes, only checked into hotels" 008 try that one again, I am soo loving this, agree with Jim, however the idea of delibratly sitting in a tin box that sinks by design is too weird for this target :) Rob ME ExDeeps = Wearing a blue romper suit, living in a steel tube that sinks AND staying in Hotels..! Oh, and 008, the Airforce has not been around long enough to develope any traditions just habits so cannot by any stretch of the imagination be the "Master Service" ;-) Jim
wil2511  
#33 Posted : 14 May 2012 17:48:08(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

I'm very happy to say I have been offered a position with a very good company and I really would like to say a big thanks to all those who gave me advice along the way. Thanks very much.
Owen24  
#34 Posted : 14 May 2012 18:39:22(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Owen24

Nice one, congrats, enjoy the wonderful world of Health and Safety.
mcknh  
#35 Posted : 14 May 2012 19:17:24(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
mcknh

Well done. Hope the transition goes smoothly. Iif you were REME you'd have been offered a job long time ago ;-)
wil2511  
#36 Posted : 14 May 2012 19:23:50(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
wil2511

Very funny... Thanks
MB1  
#37 Posted : 15 May 2012 09:14:05(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
MB1

Well done wil... hope you gain the exerience and head onwards & upwards!
Users browsing this topic
Guest (9)
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.