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auntysmash  
#1 Posted : 22 March 2012 16:57:19(UTC)
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auntysmash

We use various types of 'hand tool' hammers during assembly work. Some are wooden shaft / metal head, some fibreglass shaft / nylon head, some metal shaft / rubber grip / deadblow head etc. We have tried measuring hand arm vibration from hammering tasks the same way we do vibrating electrical or pneumatic hand tools (the standard accelerometer, HAV meter and number crunching approach) and the results are alarmingly high when compared against the vibration regs exposure levels. Some types of hammer have been producing a 'time to reach' the EAV of less than five minutes......

So, firstly, are we wrong to measure hammering in this way? Is a hammer actually classed as a vibrating tool and does it fall within the vibration regs? The HSE guidance pretty much sticks to talking about electric and pneumatic tools which obviously oscillate at much higher frequencies than hand tools would be used at. There is some mention in the guidance of 'impact shock' from hand tools, but is this the same thing as vibration? I am getting very confiused!

If we HAVE been measuring correctly and the data is genuinely high, does anyone know of any other options out there to reduce vibration exposure? Mechanising will not be an option due to the range of tasks (it's a bespoke product), complexity of the hammering positions and fairly precise 'heft' etc required. We have considered job rotation (not keen because it just exposes more people to vibration - albeit less of it!) and gel / foam handle covers (but anecdotal evidence suggests that these are ineffective as the operative just grips harder....).

Any advice would be appreciated!


Stu
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 22 March 2012 23:15:54(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The task is certainly captured by the Vibration Regs.
I recall (many years ago) this type of task being one of many set up by the trainer for those of us learning how to use meters and conduct assessments. I also recall that this type of impact data was very difficult to capture accurately and there were "range" issues with some meters.
I did wonder at the time whether the readings may overstate the problem anyway, where the accelerometer is fixed whereas in reality the hands tend to move on the shaft during the strike -true of the bigger hammers and mallets?
There are always ways to mechanise of course.........or perhaps even redesign the product to eliminate this action.
auntysmash  
#3 Posted : 23 March 2012 08:28:25(UTC)
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auntysmash

Many thanks Ron. That's clairified I was along the right lines in any case. We were indeed having some range issues with the meter, but think we got a reasonable and repeateable result after some tinkering with the settings. I also agree that the meter may be over-egging the pudding, but I guess that data is all we can go on from a survey perspective. I still find it strange that the HSE guidance just doesn't talk about impact from hand tools at all - maybe they aren't sure how to tackle it either :-)

descarte8  
#4 Posted : 23 March 2012 14:46:55(UTC)
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descarte8

ok, I may be wrong here but I think your completely going down the wrong road.

HAV, I thought, was only asscoaited with mechanical tools and not hand tools. The frequency associate with a power tool could be in the range of 100 to 10,000 cycles per second and within the harmful frequencies which can damage the capillaries and nerves in the figures etc...

The frequencies associated with hammering using non-mechanical tools, would be 1 cycle per second unless your hammering away like a mad man.

Most HAV meters wont record frequencies below the standard 6.3Hz.

Now although some vibration may be found reverberating through the hammer and object upon impact, this will be relatively short duration and high frequency.

What I think your meter is picking up is the massive deceleration of the hammer upon contact with the object spiking massively the x/y/z axis to something rediculous like 20-30m/s. This is not HAV per se.

I think the HSE wont cover any non-mechanical hand tool type vibration as it is not seen as I risk.

Hope this makes sense, if not gimme a shout

Des
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 23 March 2012 15:35:32(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

99% of the texts, ACoP etc is written around hand-held power tools with an equal emphasis on provision of meaningful vibration data from suppliers.
There are any number of tasks and industries where the exposure is indirect and not associated with hand-held machines, e.g. metal working, casting work and holding vibrating work pieces (including a fire hose!).

This dearth of information doesn't mean the risk isn't real or less important - just really difficult to quantify!
descarte8  
#6 Posted : 26 March 2012 16:12:14(UTC)
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descarte8

Agree completely Ron, and some of the regs do refer to "handling of vibrating materials" rather than just power tools.

Just in this instance i believe there have been false positives gained from "vibration" measurement of blows from a hammer.

Where as some tasks such as milling or grinding using pedestal machines may involve the operator holding the material rather than the tool/equipment and be exposed to some transmitted HAV (which is indeed hard to measure / quantity) I think in the case of hammers there is little to no risk and the result gained was due to a false positive.

No doubt the handle of the hammer does transmit some high frequency vibration, say in the range of 100-1000Hz / cycles per second, but the majority of the reading measured here I feel is from the single blow, which would have a frequency / Hz measurement of <0.5, or 1 blow every 2 seconds (unless they're going like a mad man) and not on the scale of harmful vibration frequencies (5-1400hz i believe).

Im not an expert in HAV meters (far from it!) but i thought the acceleration was measure via pizoelectric crystal, the massive blow / deceleration from a hammer is what I think causes the false HAV reading here rather than the resonated vibration down the handle.

But i will always stand to be corrected, every days a school day in this profession!

Regards

Des

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