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Thomo  
#1 Posted : 23 March 2012 17:10:16(UTC)
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Thomo

I’m getting fed up repeating this statement. A pallet truck, where the consequence of the load falling off is very low doesn’t come under LOLER it comes under PUWER. What evidence do insurance companies have to insist they are inspected under LOLER anyone know?
Jake  
#2 Posted : 23 March 2012 17:45:12(UTC)
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Jake

Thomo wrote:
I’m getting fed up repeating this statement. A pallet truck, where the consequence of the load falling off is very low doesn’t come under LOLER it comes under PUWER. What evidence do insurance companies have to insist they are inspected under LOLER anyone know?
No idea. Statutory inspections across our estate are carried out by an insurance company! And pallet trucks (electric and manual) and any other MHE with a principal purpose of the movement, not lifting, is inspected under PUWER. I'd be worried with the inspectors competence if they state otherwise? (or they are simply trying to money grab!). There is enough guidance out there to point them to (as you have already alluded to). Maybe just a case of education, education, education!
alistair.r.reid  
#3 Posted : 23 March 2012 17:49:24(UTC)
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alistair.r.reid

If you refer to the web sites for the major insurance based inspection providers you will find that they consider pallet trucks both manual and powered to be PUWER and not LOLER.
Guru  
#4 Posted : 27 March 2012 14:04:56(UTC)
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Guru

Thomo, Follow the link, and scroll down to document Nb MLCC05. It identifies hand pallet trucks falling under PUWER, and requiring a 12 inspection. http://safed.co.uk/techn...achinery-lift-and-crane/
B.Bruce  
#5 Posted : 27 March 2012 14:23:40(UTC)
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B.Bruce

Our insurers inspect under PUWER and the HSE refer to a risk-based approach for some equipment:- "However, the measures that need to be taken under LOLER will depend upon the 'risk'. While LOLER applies to most work equipment used for lifting, in practice the risk assessment may result in there being few (if any) measures necessary to comply with the Regulations. Examples include a pallet truck (which raises the load a small distance) and small storage and retrieval systems with trays on a continuous chain." Taken from HSE's Operation Circular OC 234/11. I say - discuss the issue with your insurer, I have found most are reasonable when you offer up supporting evidence. Hope this helps Cheers
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 27 March 2012 16:04:56(UTC)
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bob youel

PUWER [and many other laws] irrespective of LOLER also requires that employers manage; and that includes undertaking appropriate checks, inspections and examinations
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