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rockybalboa  
#1 Posted : 30 March 2012 11:35:04(UTC)
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rockybalboa

http://uk.news.yahoo.com...ng-petrol-091318813.html I read this and thought, with the MP saying we should all store one jerry can of petrol in our garage, someone is gonna get hurt. I think people forget how highly flammable and highly volatile that stuff is, I mean, fumes go everywhere with petrol. Six O'clock news'll probably have the whole story.
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 30 March 2012 11:44:17(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Here's the link to the local paper's website about the story.. http://www.yorkpress.co....t_burns_in_petrol_blaze/
rockybalboa  
#3 Posted : 30 March 2012 13:28:23(UTC)
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rockybalboa

oh dear oh dear "panic" buying. Dunno what I was writing lol
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 30 March 2012 13:37:27(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Nothing funny here. A real tragedy. There are many who have no perception whatsoever of the highly flammable nature of petrol. God only knows what kinds of container were involved in the decanting operation, but a jug is mentioned. According to the Sky News article, the gas cooker was on.
NickH  
#5 Posted : 30 March 2012 13:45:03(UTC)
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NickH

From the BBC News website:
Quote:
A fire service spokesman said: "Her daughter asked her mum for petrol because she had run out. The cooker was on and the fumes ignited." Station manager Lee Smith, whose Acomb crew attended the fire, said: "The people were cooking their tea and dispensing petrol from a container to a glass jug. "The vapour then ignited, the jug was then spilt which obviously ignited as well and the person involved in the decanting was consumed by the flames.
I can't begin to imagine what is currently going through the daughters mind.
Betta Spenden  
#6 Posted : 31 March 2012 12:23:38(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Gas cooker on or not, any flowing liquid (including water) will generate static electricity. The electricity will want to go to earth and if that involves jumping across (arcing) to you and leaving a spark behind that is all it takes. This is a phenomena well know in the USA where boat owners have filled jerry cans whilst the can is still in the back of the truck. If the pick up truck has one of those plastic bed liners the static cannot always escape via the truck and to earth through the tyres, so it jumps across to you and bang, the rest is history. If this person was decanting petrol on the kitchen worktop (say wood and formica), where would the static go? So if you are one of those numpties panic buying and filling jerry cans, lift them out of the boot and place them on the ground. Now all you have to worry about is manual handling issues.
david leniewski  
#7 Posted : 31 March 2012 13:07:03(UTC)
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david leniewski

having petrol in the kitchen is a big no no, full stop, the fumes could ignite at any time, just by washing your hands would ignite the boiler, storing petrol in the garage is just as risky, how many new houses have boilers in them, David Cameron is against all the red tape around health and safety, doesnt look nice for the coalition advice. thoughts are with the family. shame
Invictus  
#8 Posted : 02 April 2012 09:42:42(UTC)
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Invictus

During the news report it came to light that my wife, daughter and son did not realise that the fumes would ignite. Later my sister in law also mentioned that she didn't realise either. Just shows that we sometimes take for granted that everyone knows the facts on everyhting. Is cutting the red tape the real answer?
walker  
#9 Posted : 02 April 2012 10:30:10(UTC)
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walker

Invictus wrote:
During the news report it came to light that my wife, daughter and son did not realise that the fumes would ignite. Later my sister in law also mentioned that she didn't realise either. Just shows that we sometimes take for granted that everyone knows the facts on everyhting. Is cutting the red tape the real answer?
This is exactly why you can't leave H&S to common sense. Heart breaking incident, but we need to remind the politicians about such incidents every time we hear about just needing common sense.
Invictus  
#10 Posted : 02 April 2012 11:44:36(UTC)
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Invictus

Walker, I agree and have never been an advocate of the 'Common sense' approach. I do believe that people should also be held responsible for their actions.
pdurkin  
#11 Posted : 03 April 2012 13:59:54(UTC)
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pdurkin

Agree with comments to date, I seemed to have difficulty posting? However,yes it was an accident waiting to happen & it did. There is an obious lack of scientific or H&S knowledge in the ETON cabinet. Otherwise they would have realised that one pint of petrol could produce about 5 gallons of flammable vapour.Not a good domestic release !! Also are not pressed steel 20l Jerry Cans illegal for petrol storage (1929 / 1982 regs) never mind in a garage 9m away from the house? Who in the HSE advises / prosecutes the goverment for bad advice?
A Kurdziel  
#12 Posted : 03 April 2012 15:18:17(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Could this be a prosecution under HSWA Section 36? Well it feels like Friday
son of skywalker  
#13 Posted : 03 April 2012 16:46:46(UTC)
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son of skywalker

There is no such thing as "Common" sense! If there was such a thing we would all be either out of jobs or bored out of our mind!! SOS
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