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KMS  
#1 Posted : 11 April 2012 13:28:12(UTC)
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KMS

Hiya Guys
Would just like your thoughts. I have just been informed of an incident that should have been reportable in December/January. A colleague fractured his ankle on a flight of stairs (currently investigating if any defects to stairs etc) Management all assumed someone else had informed me and an accident form was only completed on the colleagues return to work a few weeks ago. This was a complete failure in our internal reporting procedures and has obviously given cause for me to review such procedures however my question is........ Are your views that I should still report it to RIDDOR even though its 3 months late?
Thanks in advance.
Steveeckersley  
#2 Posted : 11 April 2012 13:42:56(UTC)
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Steveeckersley

Yes!
If you dont and you are then investigated -your up the creek without a padel as they say!
Melrose80086  
#3 Posted : 11 April 2012 14:12:26(UTC)
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Melrose80086

Yes report but mention there seemed to be a failure of communication and what steps have been taken to ensure it should never happen again. For example, are all the staff aware of your accident reporting procedure? If not then refresher training would be beneficial (at the very least a reminder sent out to staff and managers to report incidents). Mention in the report that an investigation has been conducted and the outcome (e.g. no defect to stair).

Better to report and get a phone call than not report and it come back to haunt you (person puts in a claim against the company for the injury sustained for example - first thing their solicitor would ask for is a copy of the accident form and any RIDDOR report).
kdrum  
#4 Posted : 11 April 2012 15:37:55(UTC)
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kdrum

Had a very similar incident last month, although not as big a delay still outwith the reporting timescales. IP injured himself at work on 9th March, carried on working saying he was fine. IP phoned in sick on 19th March and self-certified for 7 days returning to work on 26th. During his return to work with line manager claimed time off was due to accident on 9th.

I submitted RIDDOR stating that I was aware it was late but we had only just been informed that Over 3 day was related to earlier accident.
KAJ Safe  
#5 Posted : 11 April 2012 15:45:40(UTC)
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KAJ Safe

Totally agree with Melrose, we had something similar and the final section of the riddor where you state corrective action shows you have put in the steps to rectify it happening again (touch wood).
dennish  
#6 Posted : 11 April 2012 16:40:37(UTC)
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dennish

Agree, report this make refrence to late report around communication state what actions you intend to take to stop re occurance of the injury & late notification.
DP  
#7 Posted : 11 April 2012 17:45:07(UTC)
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DP

These things happen all the time report it fully explaining why - 24 months my record for a late report.

The facts came to light via HR in a grievance matter – just tell the truth – the mere fact you are reporting late once you have found out maintains integrity
Canopener  
#8 Posted : 11 April 2012 22:08:05(UTC)
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Canopener

It happens! Own up, look big, report it late and explain why.
peter gotch  
#9 Posted : 12 April 2012 17:21:16(UTC)
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peter gotch

KMS - it's a "continuous offence" until you report, with potential for both fine and daily additional fine.
KMS  
#10 Posted : 13 April 2012 08:50:40(UTC)
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KMS

Many Thanks to you all. Thought is was probably best to report but never had one this late before.
On the RIDDOR website now :-)
mylesfrancis  
#11 Posted : 13 April 2012 10:53:39(UTC)
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mylesfrancis

peter gotch wrote:
KMS - it's a "continuous offence" until you report, with potential for both fine and daily additional fine.

Whilst it is still an offence until the incident is reported, I don't think that the legislation allows for a daily fine. Failure to submit a RIDDOR report is an offence under section 33(1)(c)s HSWA which allows for a maximum penalty of £20k fine and/or 6mths imprisonment in Mags Court or unlimited fine and/or 2yrs imprisonment in Crown Court.
teh_boy  
#12 Posted : 13 April 2012 11:25:43(UTC)
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teh_boy

DP wrote:
These things happen all the time report it fully explaining why - 24 months my record for a late report.


And I thought my 18 months late report was a good effort!
DP  
#13 Posted : 13 April 2012 11:56:47(UTC)
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DP

Ha - the regulator was fine and understood why this had occured.
DP  
#14 Posted : 13 April 2012 12:00:07(UTC)
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DP

Ha - the regulator was fine and understood why this had occured.
Jake  
#15 Posted : 13 April 2012 17:59:39(UTC)
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Jake

Agree with the above, report and explain.

Late RIDDOR reports are not that uncommon (from previous discussions with peers etc.), it does happen with the best will in the world and in my experience, the HSE don't make a big deal about it.
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