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Hi,
I am working on a H&S policy for my organisation in respect of the selection and management of contractors.
One of the questions I have been asked is whether we should be using an external party to undertake H&S vetting of contractors prior to my organisation using them. I am aware that there are a number of organisations that will undertake this for construction related activities, but not so many it would appear for other activities (CHAS etc).
Has anyone used an external organisation to undertake vetting of non-construction contractors, and if so what was opinion of the service they offered?
Many thanks for your help
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From a H&S perspective, I would suggest that it doesn’t really matter who carries out the vetting of the contractors as long as you are confident that they are capable of making a competent assessment of a contractors ability to manage H&S.
Often it comes down to resources; we are a big organisation and therefore have the necessary competent personnel to make reasoned judgements. I can sympathise with organisations where such a resource does not exist, and therefore there is need to look at alternative arrangements.
The HSE classes any company who can demonstrate a Safety Scheme’s in Procurement (SSiP) accreditation as having a basic level of competence, but it’s always good to remember that the accreditation is basically a paperwork exercise and you need to think about things like references etc.
The other thing to remember is that even if they have been passed as “competent” by an external agency, shiny paperwork doesn’t always translate into safe working, they are your contractors and still need to be managed on site.
Your right about schemes such as CHAS being essentially construction related, but I believe this is changing rapidly and it’s certainly in the interest of such accrediting organisations to get as many contractors on board as possible.
Although such accreditation is not by any means mandatory, we have just failed on a cleaning tender for a local government because we did not have an external accreditation. This now leaves our business unit who bid for the contract with the decision as to whether to apply for SSiP accreditation or risk being excluded from contracts, even though essentially the accreditation is required to tick a box.
External accreditation is like anything else, if there is money to be made, then those with a vested interest will push it as hard as possible.
Interestingly, a couple of years ago I had to speak to a couple of HSE Inspectors “on business” and I brought up the subject of CHAS and external accreditation. I was met with blank looks, it’s to be hoped that they are a bit more clued up nowadays!
Which ever way you decide to go, just remember that assessments are paperwork, its site management that counts.
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"Vetting" or competency evaluation is a 2 stage process. The idea behind CHAS , SSIP etc is that they take care of the repetitive pre-qualification issues at long-list tender stage and allow the employer to focus on the task or project specific return (methodogy, R/A etc.) at appointment stage.
You'll need in-house or close competency and resources to manage that, and the same to monitor performance on-task.
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Many thanks for the replies and in particular putting me on to the SSIP scheme.
Kind regards
Andy
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The last company I worked for was in the construction industry and if a contractor was already CHAS or Constructionline certified, they didn't have to go through the arduous task of completing a contractors evaluation application.
Since my redundancy, I believe they now insist on ALL contractors having at least one of these certifications as they have no one in place any longer to evaluate a contractors competence.
In short, its easy enough to evaluate yourself, if not a little time consuming.
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Thanks ctd167
Please note Constructionline never have, nor currently has any regime that conducts a proactive assessment of a health and safety application to them. Constructionline will accept evidence of compliance through an SSIP member as an alternative to completing their questionnaire. Even then, a buyer should verify the compliance registration.
Kind Regards
John
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